List of number of ballistas needed to attack NPC villages without losses
This NPC list is not accurate after the 1. june patch 2009, and now with Evony being updated to Evony Age II on most servers it will probably be completely inaccurate.
Here is a list with how many ballistas you need to attack NPC barbarian villages without losses. People keep asking this all the time, so I decided to make a list. This is for level 1 to level 8, I have not tried level 9 yet, and I’m not going to post numbers I have not testet out myself. Villages level 1-4 have been done with level 7 archery, 5-6 with level 8 archery and 7-8 with level 9 archery. I’ve increased some of the numbers 26. may after some people told me they lost some ballistas using them, the hero in the NPC village might be the reason, but now with this increase it should be safe to follow this guide.
For all numbers a hero with level 90+ attack have been used. Using heros with low attack is risky, and you might loose all your troops doing so. I lost 3800 ballistas against a level 8 NPC village using a 15 attack hero, so it can have large effects. Here is the list.
EDIT: DON”T USE THIS NUMBERS, WAITING FOR 1. JUNE PATCH NOTES
Level 1 NPC: 30 ballista
Level 2 NPC: 60 ballista
Level 3 NPC: 200 ballista
Level 4 NPC: 300 ballista
Level 5 NPC: 550 ballista
Level 6 NPC: 900 ballista
Level 7 NPC: 1600 ballista
Level 8 NPC: 3100 ballista
When it comes to transporters, just use enough so that you get all the resources. This obviously depends on your logistics technology. These numbers are numbers I know work, using less is possible with higher technology and a higher attack hero. If you fail using the numbers here, please let me know and link me the report.
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No losses using 180 vs L3 with 68 atk
Ouroborus
21 May 09 at 4:37 am
I had been successfully harvesting a lvl 7 npc with 1100 balistas, then got creamed…checking reports there were 30-40% more defenders when I lost…don’t know what happened, but lost all my precious balistas.
dell
22 May 09 at 12:24 am
i get 0 losses with 256-308 on a lvl 4 with 6 archery.
mike
23 May 09 at 2:01 am
What if they have rockfall or rollinglogs? wont that destroy all of your ballistae?
Knox
23 May 09 at 8:11 am
Right now the rockfall and rollinglogs don’t hit the ballistas, but they might in the future.
Iwind
23 May 09 at 1:26 pm
doesnt military tradition come into play also?
Knox
24 May 09 at 6:38 am
If rolling logs and rockfall doesnt hit ballistas, how are we suppose to defend against ballistas?
FutureSight
25 May 09 at 6:13 am
How do we defend against ballistas?
FutureSight
25 May 09 at 6:14 am
The numbers need to be adjusted upward slightly.
I attacked a lvl 6 NPC with 800 ballista. I won, but with losses. Lost 170 ballista. (I had lvl 26 hero with attack rating 83; defender had lvl 24 hero. I had lvl 6 archery, lvl 6 Military Tradition.)
So for lvl 6 NPC, I’d recommend 900, or maybe 1000 ballista to insure victory without heavy losses. Either that or higher levels of hero, Archery, and Military Tradition.
Sepeku
26 May 09 at 12:28 am
I used 870 balistas with hero 105 attack and lost 80 balistas >.<
Ragnarok
26 May 09 at 9:30 am
I used 870 balistas with hero 105 attack and lost 80 balistas >.< ( on npc 6 )
Ragnarok
26 May 09 at 9:31 am
can you do something like this for valleys?
dave-o
26 May 09 at 4:32 pm
Valleys don’t have a fixed number of defenders though, so it’s not really possible. It’s pretty risky to use ballista against valleys, I’d recommend a combination of archers and warriors depending on what’s in them.
Iwind
26 May 09 at 7:36 pm
Updated now, let me know if anyone looses troops following it now, or if they are way to high for some levels. I believe they should be pretty accurate now.
Iwind
26 May 09 at 7:47 pm
you missed out the NPC lvl 0
only need about….. 30 ballista and u get 55k gold 18k of everything else.
Mulza
26 May 09 at 10:21 pm
what about a lvl 9 npc ? i like the chart but i don’t have a level 8 to try so i want to jump to lvl 9 or 10
Shawn
26 May 09 at 11:01 pm
Iwind do you happen to play on server 4?
Shawnhath
26 May 09 at 11:39 pm
Sepeku with archery lvl 7 and hero 105 attack, 1300 balistas is not enought to do not have any losses. So attacking lvl 6 NPC is just not recommendent if You don’t have archery lvl 8 xD
Ragnarok
27 May 09 at 12:10 pm
Yeah, I play on server 4 at the moment
Iwind
27 May 09 at 2:07 pm
Yeah, I did level 1-4 with level 7 archery, 5-6 with level 8 archery and 7-8 with level 9 archery. It’s in the post, and it’s kinda important
Iwind
27 May 09 at 2:09 pm
has anyone tried a lvl 9 npc ? looks as if 6k to 6.5 k should do the trick
Shawn
27 May 09 at 6:58 pm
guys- i have made 12 straight attacks on npc lvl 1-2 cities with just the balistas… and I have not gotten a SINGLE medal to drop =( whats up with that?
when I was losing a couple hundred archers – at least I was getting medals… honor and courage …
is this normal?
bt
28 May 09 at 5:19 am
The NPC hero now has an effect in defense. A very high level hero can actually affect the numbers by 1-5%; and can be the “unknown” factor. My alliance has seen this effect on server 6 – many feel that this is new and part of the rules updates. This is not only restricted to ballistas by the way – it has been seen in valleys (in one instant, 250 pikeman beat 1000 L8 archers and the Hero level difference was 27) and when cav spamming (in one example a L30 Hero was capable of beating off waves of 1 cav – despite the player’s city having no defending troops or traps). I have tested these revised numbers above and they are safe.
Karim
28 May 09 at 4:16 pm
hey bt – in regards to medal drops with ballistas against NPC towns – you’re just unlucky.
:( In my last attack against a NPC L4 town I got a honor medal, so they happen, just couldn’t tell you the frequency. It’s definitely low and frustrating though.
Karim
28 May 09 at 7:14 pm
Karim, it is not the hero that beats off the cavs, with the new update your cavs have to be able to take down the health of the wall within 100 rounds. Thats why it says defenders won, fight lasted 100 rounds
Shawnhath
29 May 09 at 10:29 pm
Um I captured a level 20 hero when attacking a lv5 vally but all of its stats are in the 30′S i lost 200 archers to pike men and a few warriors but i had 80 warriors do the warriors engage warriors first there should be turn based combat that is controllable
should Ii keep the hero?
Ziziva
31 May 09 at 11:57 pm
No reason to keep a hero with stats in the 30′s, especially for a level 20 hero. Usually they do yeah, depends what you are up against, they engage those that reach them first.
Iwind
1 Jun 09 at 12:07 am
i attacked a level NPC village and lost about 14 ballistas. i think we should try about 1000 for level 6. its probly cause my hero only had 70 attack.
Gregles
1 Jun 09 at 9:04 am
BE CAREFUL!
It looks like the NPC stats have been updated – Server 4 went down for an upgrade, when it came back things had changed!
Attacked a LVL5 NPC with 3163 Ballista and lost 43 of them. Attack hero stats 92
lvl 9 Archery researched
Something has changed!
Compodres
1 Jun 09 at 2:14 pm
Something changed?
battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/dc/df/6c/41/dcdf6c4120ba67f547f6f06dbf21ad7e.xml
Attack on NPC lvl 6, archery lvl 8, hero 130 att… If some1 can’t see report:
I used 3300 balistas and lost 1300!
Ragnarok
1 Jun 09 at 2:44 pm
Seriously stupid, 2nd attack on a lvl 8 NPC city – 3100 ballistas, 105 att hero and my entire force is wiped out. WTF. Fight lasted 48 rounds.
Kellhus
1 Jun 09 at 4:34 pm
Yeah, something changed with the 1. june patch it seems, that sucks.
Iwind
1 Jun 09 at 4:43 pm
It’s great they have sent us message about that change… I wonder how many peoples lost entire force of balistas…
Ragnarok
1 Jun 09 at 6:01 pm
Btw Iwind could You change numbers to xxx for some time? Some ppls don’t read comments…
Ragnarok
1 Jun 09 at 6:03 pm
Rocks are finally effective against ballistae. Yesterday I could easily take a level 7 NPC with 1320 ballistae, today I lost them all together with my precious transporters. The mechanics wiped the entire barb. army, but one can see from the war report that the rocks were the problem. Taking rams along the ballistae might help?
wochniat
1 Jun 09 at 6:35 pm
Shawnhath – you are correct, thank-you.
Iwind, there are changes after the latest update.
battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/cf/4f/96/70/cf4f9670805b2c76b6d88494bac0d39a.xml
This was against a L6 NPC town; I have L9 Archery and Hero was L22 with 87 Attack.
Furthetmore, I had mined this city many times previously with absolutely no losses.
Unfortunately for me, proving that I don’t learn lessons very well, I sent another 900 ballista against L6 NPC town and same results. I’m now down 1800 ballista. I think the developers stumbled across your page and improved how rockfall works.
Anyone else seeing these results? Only other interesting note? In both cases NPC had very high level heros – L47 and L46; in my case I had L22 and L42 heros (87 ATT and 98 ATT).
Karim
1 Jun 09 at 6:37 pm
Ouch just saw all the new posts about the June 1 change! #@$$#@%!!! So everyone got nailed and the combat system has been changed. I personally did not see this to be a loophole. In fact it made sense – overwhelm the NPC city defenses with seige machines. Now how is one supposed to gainfully attack an NPC town, and what effect will this have in PvP? Ballistas take forever, 1800 ballistas was probably a weeks worth, there had to be some use to them, apparently not.
I also had 5k archers (+minor ground troops) wiped by 484 cav (+minor ground troops) in an L9 valley. This would have been a walk in the park yesterday. I think they may have changed how range is applied. I’ve reviewed some of Iwind’s posts on combat resolution and archer damage per range, and I think the archer effectiveness has been modified for dam/range.
I enjoy this game because of the solid rule base requiring calculated strategy. I can’t tell you how much I dislike it when a dev team makes sudden, unannounced rule changes to the world.
Karim
1 Jun 09 at 6:45 pm
battle4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/45/58/aa/a2/4558aaa2e0a86ac0e9b5fcf852cb9526.xml
LVL 5 NPC
No losses with 3400 ballista – my stats are same as the last post
the change is they now attack Archer Towers last we think, someone i saw lost all their ballista and only killed 10% of the AT’s
Compodres
1 Jun 09 at 7:12 pm
u can do a barb 5 with 1650 ballistas no losses
and
u can do a barb 4 no losses with 700 ballistas
Mulza
1 Jun 09 at 10:38 pm
just did a lvl 5 with 550…no losses.
seems just 6 and above are effected.
abyss tx
2 Jun 09 at 1:05 am
Ack. #$@!#$% I should have checked the recent comments here first.
Just lost 1050 Ballistas and 540 transporters against a LVL 6. Hero had attack 81. My archery is 9.
Gary D
2 Jun 09 at 9:08 am
that’s what I said guys: Only where cities have rocks, things changed! Be careful from NPCs level 6 upwards!
wochniat
2 Jun 09 at 10:38 am
Same story here. Had been doing a lvl8 with 4k ballista fine. Then yesterday lost a total of 7k ballista. 4k ballista against a lvl8 npc with hero lvl66 with attack of 127. Wiped out. Sigh.
Grimalkine
2 Jun 09 at 1:15 pm
NPC lvl 5:
1970 balistas, hero 130 att – 34 losses.
Ragnarok
2 Jun 09 at 1:32 pm
Ya I have been attacking level 1-4 fine using the old stats. just letting people know.
Marc Jr
2 Jun 09 at 2:57 pm
battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b4/fc/52/ac/b4fc52aceef3549855103595e9ee2356.xml
This is an attack on NPC lvl 5… So Abyss I think You are an lier. If i lost balistas when attacking with 4400 on archery lvl 9 and really good hero it’s impossible You lost nothing attacking with 550
Ragnarok
2 Jun 09 at 6:32 pm
Ragnarok,
I attacked with 620 on level 5 NPC without losses. Why should ppl lie?
wochniat
2 Jun 09 at 7:04 pm
I hit a lvl5 with 634 and lost 64 of them.
Not even with the extra wall my ballistas should be in range if not my calculations is way off. Calculated that the new archers towers get range bonus both from walls and archery level.
Archery lvl 8
Range
Archers 1680
Ballistas 1960
Catapult 2100
NPC lvl Range
1 Archers tower 1430
2 Archers tower 1560
3 Archers tower 1690
4 Archers tower 1820
5 Archers tower 1950
6 Archers tower 2080
7 Archers tower 2210
8 Archers tower 2340
9 Archers tower 2470
10 Archers tower 2600
Curin
2 Jun 09 at 8:51 pm
its level 6 and up that are effected. everything and lower is ok to hit.
Marc Jr
2 Jun 09 at 10:36 pm
They changed range now, even once you are within range of the targets, your range troops continue to walk forward as they shoot
Shawnhath
2 Jun 09 at 11:33 pm
NPC’s are now stronger due to an update. I lost 1183 ballistas to a lvl 6 npc using a hero with 99 attack and lvl 8 archery. This guide will need to be rewritten now to compensate for the change in strength.
Polar
3 Jun 09 at 12:59 am
On server 6, NPC lvl 5 is affected also.
I think there is no such number now to do not have any losses, but i will try with 8k balistas l8r
battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/11/f4/e1/fa/11f4e1fa530b9e79f1468af720ddd048.xml
Ragnarok
3 Jun 09 at 8:18 am
I sent the following e-mail to the devs. I have no problem with them adjusting the game’s difficulty, but this is absurd.
I have spent several weeks building my cities and my prestige in a game that is purported to be free forever. Part of this game is learning exactly what force is required to be successful against a foe. I have been attacking a nearby level 6 barbarian city in an attempt to obtain wisdom medals…a requirement to advance. Through trial and error I had determined how many ballistae I needed to attack the city without losses and spent a great deal of time building those forces. I sent 1200 ballistae and 500 transporters against the city last night…far more than I had determined was necessary to succeed. This morning I logged on and discovered that my ENTIRE FORCE had been wiped out.
Now, please explain to me how I can go from overwhelming success to utter defeat in one patch. Is this the plan of the game’s future – to capriciously change the difficult of computer opponents resulting in massive losses? Is that the way you reward players who are endeavoring to make your game a success?
It will take me over 75 hours to replace those ballistae and transporters (I lost 500 of them as well). Are you going to fix them or is it just tough luck that you completely subverted the game dynamics on me?
I would like my troops (1200 ballistae, 500 transporters) replaced immediately. If not, I will not play the game…meaning I will not be purchasing any further game coins.
You need to consider the significant amount of time and effort your player base is expending before you decide to punish them for their success. You owe it to them.
ZZ
3 Jun 09 at 2:01 pm
Yea, i atked a lvl 1 npc today with 60 ballistae and no losses. its 6 up that are affected, except on server 6.
A H0B0
3 Jun 09 at 11:57 pm
i found a new bug: on alliance chat, if you try and type in then it will say nothing and u cant talk unless u re-login
A H0B0
4 Jun 09 at 12:10 am
I am relatively new to tracking this ballista discussion, but I have noticed that while I take no casualties, I also am gaining 0 prestige. (attacking a lvl 3 with 120 bal, hero attack 100) While I am certainly not complaining about being able to gain resources without casualties, I am just curious if this is/was normal or maybe also part of recent changes…? Thanks
logre
4 Jun 09 at 12:22 am
For those of you who are successful against level 5 NPC towns, can you please identify your server? It may be that the patch hasn’t been fully applied on those?
I am on server 6, and I attacked an L5 NPC town with 550 ballista, L8 archery; and took severe losses (not worth the resources gained). So on Server 6, you can’t attack L5 towns with the numbers above (I had done this quite succesfully prior to June 1).
Overall, this is very frustrating. Attacking NPC towns without losses wasn’t a loophole, but instead, a time consuming process necessary for medal farming and obtaining resources to feed your army – which you can’t feasibly do on your cities alone. And throughout it all, you don’t gain honour. So why the change? Without warning?
And what about the email from the dev team that forces would be restored within 24 hours? I’ve received nothing.
And worse yet – what is the logic behind archers advancing when an enemy is within range? Why have range at all? I lost 5k archers against 484 cav – because apparently my battalion of archers didn’t feel comfortable drawing their bowstrings unless they were under the rearing hooves of their enemy.
At the end of the day, it’s just a game. We’ve got to roll with it. But it is a time consuming game, and it was a rather unethical move on behalf of the dev team.
Karim
4 Jun 09 at 5:33 pm
I can confirm these numbers work for up to L4 NPC, on server 6, as per other player’s comments. I have tested L1, L2, L3 an L4 successfully. I have not re-attempted L5 yet. We know that L6+ does NOT work.
Karim
4 Jun 09 at 10:06 pm
if i read all this then are 1-4 city’s easy without losing.
for lvl 5 npc city’s is lvl 8 archery needed without loses.
in 40 hours i got lvl 8 archery =D so can test it as soon as possible.
an player....
6 Jun 09 at 11:17 am
I have lvl9 archery, and I cant attack a lvl5 barb town with 1300 ballistas without losing about 30 of them. Hero 100 attack, server 6. I could however do this with lvl 8 archery, this also after June 1st. A theory would be that if youve left your archery-level untouched after June 1st, you wont be affected. But I doubt that.
another plaer
6 Jun 09 at 1:02 pm
Lvl 8 arch wont help. I have it
and lost 2000 ballistas 400 transporter, 100 RAMS, and 2k warriors
against lvl 5 with 115 atk hero
Poker
7 Jun 09 at 1:57 am
I can confirm that 1200 ballista can not take out a lvl 5 NPC with lvl 7 archery. I just lost them and accompanying transports. battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/72/78/1f/eb/72781febd29247098ef284705b093938.xml
mrfrogac
8 Jun 09 at 10:01 am
Archery lvl 8
Range
Archers 1680
Ballistas 1960
Catapult 2100
NPC lvl Range
1 Archers tower 1430
2 Archers tower 1560
3 Archers tower 1690
4 Archers tower 1820
5 Archers tower 1950
6 Archers tower 2080
7 Archers tower 2210
8 Archers tower 2340
9 Archers tower 2470
10 Archers tower 2600
if you check this you can see archer towers cant reach ur balista’s so there safe. and there aren´t any rockfalls in lvl 5 npc´s.
so it has to be safe at lvl 8 archery.
an player....
8 Jun 09 at 10:15 pm
DO not attack lvl 6 or above, tried with 1498 Balista, hero of 135 attack and lost the bloomin lot. Work that one out, easily hit lv 5 npc’s with looses up to 40 but wipe on lvl 6. Thank god i got my hero back otherwise i would have been crying.
battle4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b2/5a/c0/92/b25ac092e7e159966b53413ad070044c.xml
Avtelman
9 Jun 09 at 12:53 am
I have a few questions regarding siege weapons and fortifications:
(1) Will ballistas destroy all types of fortifications (traps, abatis, towers, logs, and rocks)?
(2) After the early June patch, do ranged troops (archers & siege weapons) stay at their maximum range or advance every round?
(3) When attacking a city with traps, abatis, towers, and logs with just warriors, do the towers and logs take out the warriors before they get to the traps? If I also take cavalry and ballistas to attack, will the ballistas attack the towers, before the towers get to attack the warriors/cavalry, assuming similar archery levles?
(4) I read that 3000 archers can easily take out 1000 towers, but if the city also has traps do the archers get mauled by the traps, even though there are warriors attacking too?
(5) Can archers take out all types of fortifications, including rocks, logs, towers, abatis, and traps?
(6) What is the best way to assault a player city with traps, abatis, towers, and logs? I’m assuming Wave 1 should include: warriors (for the traps), calvary (for the abatis), ballistas (for the towers and logs) and archers (to destroy the player’s army if he opens the gates). Is this correct or do I send a wave of warriors, then a wave of cavalry, then a 3rd wave of ballistas/archers/transporters?
Anjou
9 Jun 09 at 4:18 pm
If you want the answer, here it is…
I have been farming level 5 NPCs non stop and easily with no losses with 600 ballistas. I could probably do less but I dont want to. Attack hero is in the 80′s. Why?
Real simple, and pay attention and you will not lose any more ballistas. Level 8 archery is fine (no less) as long as you have level 5 horseback, maybe 6. If your horseback is lower than 5 or higher than 6 with level 8 archery you will lose ballistas or wipe. If you have level 9 archery and your horseback is LESS than 8 you will lose ballistas or wipe. Period. Does that make any sense? Absolutely not, but that is the truth.
Brought to you by the Truth.
TheTruth
10 Jun 09 at 2:44 pm
hey i just won against a lvl 5 npc with 500 ballistae and lvl 10 archery. but you guys need 2 remember that military tradition comes into play here also!
Knox
10 Jun 09 at 10:15 pm
i was using a 88 attack hero with lvl 8 military tradition
Knox
10 Jun 09 at 10:17 pm
June 11 stats on server 5 – 550 Ballistea lvl 5 NPC no loses
attack of hero 50
battle5.evony.com/default.html?logfile/23/8c/e7/5f/238ce75f223dbf0e03f00703cfd1f632.xml
not sure about today
Rocket45
12 Jun 09 at 5:05 pm
as of 6/12 on server 6
attacking lvl 5 barbs with 650 – 700 balista (lvl 9 archery) will result in losses. hero has 90 attack, tried it 2 times, they must have tweeked the range on lvl 5s. On the 11th I could do that on losses. now experiencing losses.
battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/0a/4d/be/1b/0a4dbe1b6bd222978480454c4b834bab.xml
Chrystophe
14 Jun 09 at 1:57 pm
275 ballistae works for level 4 NPC, but with level 8 archery.
LM
16 Jun 09 at 1:41 am
Server 6
Lvl 6 NPC with hero (attack 90) + lvl 9 Archery.
All killed battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/23/9b/b5/ae/239bb5ae5dc788643f237f3a66c5060d.xml
Another one
17 Jun 09 at 1:28 am
For level 5 NPC, I was using 500 ballistae (on server 6) with archery 8 — no losses. BUT today, after upgrading to archery 9, I lost 10% of my ballistae. It doesn’t make sense??
LM
17 Jun 09 at 11:05 pm
LVL 6 NPC defeated my 904 Ballistas and 99 Attack hero. lvl 8 archery
jeff
18 Jun 09 at 9:18 pm
Take advice from TheTruth…. Really this Archery / Horseback Riding thing is important… Affects the speed at which your ball’s reach their defenses… Defense is staged, so it makes sense…
Safest to say for Arch 8, Horseback 5/6 (no lower, no higher) or for Arch 9, Horseback 8…
Using Arch 6, Horseback 5 is possible, but not advisable – who wants to risk their ball’s? Also make sure you have a high level hero with attack pref over 85, best over 100…
Just getting the hang of it all now…
Expect the next patch will mess with this all again!!! On server 10 & the last patch was about 18hrs ago
Lost
21 Jun 09 at 9:57 am
Sent almost 8k ballista to lvl 6 NPC and still had almost 300 casualties.
battle3.evony.com/default.html?logfile/ff/43/93/17/ff439317afa213e89db7ce1a13bbc1a6.xml
Kendall
21 Jun 09 at 10:40 pm
Oh for last message I’m at lvl 10 archer, lvl 8 metalcasting and M Tradition. And used a lvl 92 hero. I do fine with 3k ballista for lvl 5 NPC and 800 for lvl 4.
Kendall
21 Jun 09 at 10:46 pm
How many ballistas needed to farm a level 1 and 2 NPC taking in considerate the latest server changes? I have level 6 archery and a hero of 76 attack.
Thanks
noobie
25 Jun 09 at 1:49 pm
“If you want the answer, here it is…
I have been farming level 5 NPCs non stop and easily with no losses with 600 ballistas. I could probably do less but I dont want to. Attack hero is in the 80’s. Why?
Real simple, and pay attention and you will not lose any more ballistas. Level 8 archery is fine (no less) as long as you have level 5 horseback, maybe 6. If your horseback is lower than 5 or higher than 6 with level 8 archery you will lose ballistas or wipe. If you have level 9 archery and your horseback is LESS than 8 you will lose ballistas or wipe. Period. Does that make any sense? Absolutely not, but that is the truth.
Brought to you by the Truth.”
it’s as though your trying to find the right speed to sequentially dodge the falling arrows from the ATs.
An observer
25 Jun 09 at 11:53 pm
I just attacked a NPC lvl 5 with 1000 balistas and 900 wagons and a 94 attack hero, and LOST EVERYTHING!
Alex Pop
30 Jun 09 at 9:23 pm
I lost 1500 balistas attacking lvl 5 npc town having lvl 8 archery and lvl 8 horseback riding. When i had lvl 7 horseback riding, was attacking lvl 5 npc towns loosing a max of 30 balistas. Doesn’t make any sense…
Hallux
1 Jul 09 at 8:12 pm
i attacked NPC Lv5 with 600 ballistas and 500 transporter and 99 attack hero, lost 52. But i could attack NPC lv 5 with 550 ballistas and no lose. Any suggestion…
x00x
2 Jul 09 at 9:02 pm
Atttacked a lvl 3 with 200 balls no losses!
KRIKI
4 Jul 09 at 8:02 am
on server 7: Attack lvl 5 npc with no losses. 1.5k ballista, you must have archery to lvl 10 to get no losses. haven’t tried lvl 6 yet, but will soon
Stanley
14 Jul 09 at 7:26 pm
I attack lvl5 with 515 ballista and 540 transp and 100 warriors. The warriors die every time but no losses on ballista. Without the warriors, the ballista lose about 24.
I attacked a lvl6 with 900 ballista, transp and warriors and lost every blinking one.
I have lvl 10 arch, 9 HB, 9 Mil tradition, (well, everything is 9 or 10)
so if ballista doesn’t work – what does on lvl6 npc and up??
MasterCho
19 Jul 09 at 7:46 am
When attacking lvl 5 npc,, send 1k ballista and 1500 warriors,,warriors will be wipeout but no ballista lost..
ella
19 Jul 09 at 3:17 pm
I have lvl 10 archery, lvl 10 medicine, and lvl 9 military tradition and sadly only lvl 3 horseback riding.
With a hero with roughly 76 attack.
How many ballistas should I send so I wouldn’t lose any troops for lvl 1 and 2?
Ini
24 Jul 09 at 11:50 pm
I have found that for lvl 5 NPC’s in particular, when my horseback riding was level 8 and my archery was too, I would get wiped out, read something about how your horseback needed to lag behind your archery by a level or two, tested it out on another server with level 8 archery but only level 6 horseback, same numbers, and had very few losses, when archery went up to level 9, even those losses went to zero on level 5 NPC, still have not tried level 6 NPC, because I’m a bit worried about that test lol, hoping to see someone here do it first
Shackdaddy
4 Aug 09 at 7:21 pm
i attack lvl 5 NPC towns with 450 ballista (no troops) – at no losses..
i have arch 10/hbr 9
i think the key to attacking a lvl 5, after the patch, is to have arch 9 and hbr 9 to get no losses with so little ballista. i can do this with an attack hero of 83, or higher. same results.
i was warned to not hit npc5 without arch/hbr 9. i noticed theres a few times also hitting one with arch 9/hbr 8 that i had losses (probably depending on defending city hero).
matthius
7 Aug 09 at 9:04 pm
also last night i tested a lvl 6 npc with 1300 ballistas and lost 320.
attack hero 130, arch10/hbr9
matthius
7 Aug 09 at 9:07 pm
ok so i logged into my server today to do some farming to notice something else has changed again i hit a lvl5 npc with lvl9 archery and attack hero 82 lost 40 balistas i think the update today has changed it all over again so guide is not effective at the moment
sniper
9 Aug 09 at 5:31 pm
I attack level 5 with 500 ballista and no losses, archery level 9, horseback riding level 8 and no losses. When I had horseback riding 6 and 7, always losses. A very big difference does the horseriding make.
listen to the Truth, he aint lying
Gray
10 Aug 09 at 10:51 am
There is no problem on Server 5 attacking a lvl 6 npc with 600 ballista with lvl 10 archery and you only need to attack a lvl 2 npc with 100 Ballista with lvl 8 archery.And you only need to attack a lvl 5 npc with 450 ballista (with lvl 10 archery).I think you are able to attack a lvl 1 npc with 25 ballista with lvl 10 archery.This Ballista guide Needs to be updated.
Phillip
13 Aug 09 at 5:09 pm
To Stanley
You dont need to attack a lvl 5 npc with 1.5k ballista wih lvl 10 archery. You only need to attack a lvl 5 npc with 450 ballista lvl 10 archery no losses! o_O
Phillip
13 Aug 09 at 5:12 pm
I’m playing on the server W12! I discover that a Horse BAck Riding (HBR)level 7 and 8 don’t works very well! I hit NPC level 5 with 390 ballistas without loses! Of course that my archery level is 9 all the stuff are level 8 or 9 and the most important… my hero level 41 has attacking 93!
Now i will like to try with a NPC level 6… some people says that catapults is necesary to hit
Beorn
14 Aug 09 at 1:00 am
The way i evaded an attack by ballistas:
1.move all your troops to a safe location with all your resources
2.only make abatis like 5k
3.just w8 till the attack reports
4.the results should appear as: 100Rounds Defenders victorious
5.they have nothing to attack nor they have suffered any casualties resulting in a tie….but since its an attack…attackers lose.
Note: This might not work when your up against Horsemen.
hope this is of huge help
UnknownDude
16 Aug 09 at 5:34 am
Npc lv 1 whith archevy 6 , HBR 5, 30 ballista and no loss.
Skylyne
17 Aug 09 at 2:18 am
using 1000 ballistas 500 transporter with arhery lvl 9, HBR lvl 8. no one back home when attack npc’s lvl 6. it’s tragedy following your guide
kanugrahan
17 Aug 09 at 11:45 am
26 balls, no losses against NPC 1.
Server 36, Arch Lv 8, Hbr Lv 6. Low lever hero Attk attribute – below 40.
I will be reducing the balls number by decrements of 1 for testing purposes.
Test User
17 Aug 09 at 2:00 pm
I attacked a level 5 npc with 590 ballistas level 8 archery level 8 iron working and military tradition and a hero with 98 attack and lost everything…
Inukiel
18 Aug 09 at 3:22 pm
UnknownDude, thats because they couldn’t do enough damage to your walls in 100 rounds. Must have been a small attack force.
Razimir
19 Aug 09 at 8:09 am
Npc lv 1 whith archevy 9 , HBR 4, 10 ballista and no loss
Npc lv 2 whith archevy 9 , HBR 4, 40 ballista and no loss
Npc lv 3 whith archevy 9 , HBR 4, 150 ballista and no loss
zee225
21 Aug 09 at 9:38 pm
Npc lv 4 whith archevy 9 , HBR 4, 200 ballista and no loss
zee225
21 Aug 09 at 10:26 pm
I attacked lvl6 NPC with 900 ballistas, a 98 attack hero and a lvl 10 archery. Yet I lost 303 ballistas.. so I believe this guide isn’t quite true.. here’s the attack report:
battlew8.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090823/b4/7d/b47d25bff32f3bc3545079a262ebda2f.xml
sj
23 Aug 09 at 10:47 am
NPC lvl 4, Archery lvl 9, HBR 8, 145 ballistas no loss
Report: battle32.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090823/b2/08/b208a04a2e1588f44a894a2aeb565e42.xml
*BANDZIOR*
24 Aug 09 at 11:43 am
NPC lvl 4, Archery lvl 9, HBR 8, 105 ballistas no loss
Report: http://battle32.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090824/08/46/0846e274de4ecee0a121736fae2a9e17.xml
*BANDZIOR*
24 Aug 09 at 12:54 pm
First of all, you need to have lvl9 HBR, and lvl 10 Archery, for you to attack a level 6 NPC, at level 7 NPC you will need to raise your HBR to level 10. I have taken out lvl 6 NPC’s with 1200 balistae with no losses, however I am lvl 10 HBR, lvl 10 Arch. I needed 1500 with lvl 9 HBR. for some reason HBR is huge once u get above lvl 5 NPC’s. So if you plan on attacking anything above a lvl 5, your going to need to be lvl 10 HBR, and lvl 10 Arch, using 1200 balistae on lvl 6, 2500 on lvl 7, and I have not tried lvl 8 yet, also u might be able to get away using less balistae, I jsut like to be safe, so the numbers I have are guaranted wins with no losses, if you r looking for the absolute minimum, then other factors are going to come into play, like hero att lvl. BTW, my hero is at 86.
BigMike
27 Aug 09 at 10:35 pm
OK, something is profoundly different here, I just attacked a level 6 NPC, with 2367 balistae and 1 archer, I got 332 casualty. I used a 143 attack rated hero that is lvl 61. I am currently lvl 10 across the board on all my research except those not pertaining to attacks, like mining, lumbering, agriculture, ect. ect. I now believe that the patch shook things up a little, cause I have attacked a lvl 6 before with alot less balistae, and a 81 att hero, and had no losses. So now Im actually scared to try a lvl 7, lol. I hope this helps. Below is attack report.
battle43.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090827/20/2a/202a634e357557757f112fd4abcd18f5.xml
BigMike
27 Aug 09 at 10:52 pm
I’ll have to agree, I just lost 1500 balistae on a lvl 6, with lvl 10 archery. Report below
battle26.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090831/f6/93/f693d38d2e8282efb2005c88bec16c5d.xml
murf
1 Sep 09 at 12:38 am
I can easily take out a lvl 5 npc with 420 ballistas on world server 7, with no losses.
- lvl 4 HBR
- lvl 10 Archery
- lvl 7 of everything else
- attack hero 85
Savager
1 Sep 09 at 5:44 am
i used to attacked lvl 1-4 npc and had o losses.archery lvl 8 hbr lvl 6. 70+ attack hero.
lain
1 Sep 09 at 10:38 am
how many ballista’s hit lvl4 npc with no losses?
DacH
7 Sep 09 at 12:10 am
I take farm lvl 5 npc with 400 ballisters + 500 transports max for collection all resources (might not need as many transports but i like to be sure)
lvl 9 archery
lvl 9 HBR
variouse lvl’s for others
Carl
7 Sep 09 at 12:13 am
I’m on Server 14 and I contently attack level 5 NPC’s with 600 Ballista and 150 Transporters. I’ve never had any losses. I started off with low level heroes as well. I’ve only had losses from level 6 and up.
Blackcrown
7 Sep 09 at 3:16 am
Well, I tried the numbers for a lvl8 NPC – they are too low
3500 Ballistas – Lost all – there were 2244 Archer Towers Left
Lvl32 Hero w/ 99 Attack
Lvl 10 Archery, Military Tradition, & Iron Working
Lvl 9 Horse Back Riding
battle34.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090910/04/f6/04f64ad3b8623e58bde5355f1486749d.xml
vitazen
10 Sep 09 at 6:24 pm
hmm ive sent tons of attacks this week on lvl 5s… u only need 500 with 0 losses here are a few of my reports
battlew12.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090915/72/4b/724b406d281334bbbf29111af2c6d8e5.xml
battlew12.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090915/cb/8c/cb8c32270b4071c27f939515c439b5e1.xml
battlew12.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090914/fc/bb/fcbbc777bbe76368f624e65df0a238d5.xml
i use a hero with just under 100 attack…im not using a precise numbah cus it goes up evry few mins lol.. i have archery 10, HBR 9, iron working 9, military tradition 10, medicine 10. hope this helps in some way
jambob
16 Sep 09 at 12:02 am
Hey… I take lvl 5′s with 500 ballista also… and prob take them with less since my arch/hbr/mil trad./ iron working/ are all level 9… but weary of possible losses. I have noticed that over sending ballista also incurrs losses. What i am looking for though is what it takes to take a levl 6 NPC with no loss. Can’t seem to find this info anywhere.
Server 37
Avienda
Host
Dragon2
Avienda
19 Sep 09 at 1:17 am
Well from my experience you can attack npcs with numbers given above up to lvl 5. But it also depends on your archery AND horsebreeder level – NOT JUST archery. All of this is explained in this link: http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=42643
dnov
19 Sep 09 at 2:17 pm
Lvl 6 npc. lost 917 balistas and transporters.
battle57.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090922/86/00/8600b2aa9531c847c1f1e607a98d604f.xml
Yikes! wont do that again.
DJ Engh
22 Sep 09 at 5:37 pm
level 6 arch
balls 50
hero is level 14 with 70 attack
level 2 npc
no problems, no loss lol
hilt
23 Sep 09 at 9:57 pm
NPC Level 5:
I have:
lv10 Archery/Iron Working
Lv9 Horse Back Riding/Medicine
Lv8 Military Tradition
I attack these lvl5 npcs with 375 Ballista, ATT Hero 92+ with 0 losses.
I also send my Intel Hero out (29 attack) to lv5′s with 400 Ballista, 0 losses.
Will soon be hitting lv10′s. But trying to figure out what is needed for lv7 npcs. If anyone can post please.
Hope this helps.
Thanks!
Ghostlord
Server 28
375k Prestige
Ghostlord
25 Sep 09 at 8:19 am
i dont understand why i kept on losing my balistas and transporters whenever i sent my troops out yesterday. previously, when my HBR was Lvl 6, everything was fine. But ever since I upgrade it to Lvl 7 (and now 8), i lost everything.
sigh…
i sent 400 transporters and 550 balistas.
adry
27 Sep 09 at 7:13 am
how come i get losses now when attacking lvl 5 npc. i sent 650 ballistas i get 34 losses..?
john
28 Sep 09 at 2:38 am
how come i get losses now when attacking lvl 5 npc. i sent 650 ballistas i get 34 losses..? my archery is lvl 9, HB lvl 5, lvl 40 hero w/ attack 39…
john
28 Sep 09 at 2:40 am
i attacked a lv 6 with 1100 ballistas and i lost all of them i had lv 8 archeryand lv 10 military tradition howd i lose all of them? this isnt very accurate
Ray Loranzo
3 Oct 09 at 12:40 am
dont attack lvl 6 npc no matter how many ballista you have. you will lose 200-300 everytime. go for lvl 5
Ithidrill
8 Oct 09 at 12:53 am
With any hero over 100 attack I can hit a level 5 with 450 ballista and have no losses. Archery 10, HBR 9, Compass 9. HBR and Compass MUST be 1 lower than Archery to keep ballista from moving into range of enemy ATs and archers before they get a chance to fire.
I hit 8 – 10 lvl 5s per day this way, NO losses.
JeffK
24 Oct 09 at 3:58 pm
Here’s what I used to do in attacking level 5 and 4 NPC
Heroes attack should atleast 60 and above..
Archery Level should be level 10 and other(Military, HBR, Iron working and etc..should be level 10.
Level 5 NPC – 400 Ballista and 400 transporter (no casualties)
Level 4 NPC – 200 Ballista and 210 transporter (no casualties)
Level 3 NPC – 120 Ballista and 80 transporter (no casualties)
Wn2 server
30 Oct 09 at 4:42 am
Sent 1007 Ballistae to attack a lvl 6 NPC with a 107 atk hero. Lost EVERYTHING! Archery Lvl 9, HBR lvl 8. Totally sucks. With 550 balistae I can beat a lvl 5 NPC with no losses though.
Peil
31 Oct 09 at 1:22 am
I hit lvl6 NPCs with 600 ballista, 600 transport, supported by 5000 archers and 100 of each infantry. The bllista all survive but i lose all the others. Get all the loot and nearly 300K exp for hero (lvl100)
server2
pickperson
3 Nov 09 at 1:51 am
I hit level 1 2 3 NPC and all i send is ballista and transports and i have no loses
Server 26
anoymous12
14 Nov 09 at 2:32 am
Damn freaking people attack me for no reason and i want to beat the shit out of them but i dont have enough troops to take on the battle
anoymous12
14 Nov 09 at 2:35 am
I keep farming NCP’s 1-4 with only Balistas, and no loses
Hero att, doesn’t matter(I use hero Lv3 with AT-33)
Archery Lv should be same as NCP LV
NCP’s LV 1-20
LV 2-50
LV 3-175
LV 4-250
I’m scare to try a lv5 NCP, doe to my lost of 700 balistas
Sever 70
Darkin
17 Nov 09 at 1:01 am
I ALWAYS ATTACK LVL 5 AND 6 NPCS. I SEND 800 TRANSPORTERS AND 500 BALLISTA AND NO LOSSES LVL9 ARCHERY LVL8 IRONWORKING LVL9 HORSEBACKRIDING LVL7 MEDICINE
(ARCHERY GOING ON LVL 10 NOW)
KINGKRUNCH
19 Nov 09 at 3:23 am
We use 500 trans and 500 ballista to hit lvl 5 NPC with no losses
our hero lvl doesn’t seem to matter, medals are gained using a lower lvl hero with a mid atk lvl.
my HBR is 9
Arch is 10
We play on server 61
Hope this helps some of you guys
Quinn
22 Nov 09 at 9:48 pm
I use 500 Balla with 500 transporters with no losses. but that comes with 110 Attack hero and level 10 Archery
BK
23 Nov 09 at 11:08 am
OI
im on server II
da best server
also servers 2 and 3 might merge with us
LONG LIVE LIONS SWABIA VDD SPARTA DENOMIC!
wellsfargo
27 Nov 09 at 5:05 pm
Also
200 balls vs ;v 4 npc
u are gonna lose
i have lv 10 archery lv10 logistics
well lv 10 every ding with a 100+ attack hero
about 750 balls
just 2 be safe
wellsfargo
27 Nov 09 at 5:06 pm
it is not rockfall or hero that is causing balista losses. its the lvl of hbr. lvl 8 arch needs hbr 5-6 for zero losses. but go up a lvl in hbr and you get losses big time. lvl 9 arch requires lvl8 hbr. lvl 10 arch and hbr lvl don’t matter. lvl 6 arch and hbr lvl 3 seem to work as well. for 1-3 npc anyway.
crusher
29 Nov 09 at 4:50 pm
Everytime I try this I lose everything. I just lost 1600 ballista on a LVL 6 NPC with 105 ATT hero, LVL 9 Archery, LVL 8 HBR, lvl 10 military tradition, lvl 9 iron working, LVL 9 medicine. I don’t know what I am doing wrong, any suggestions? Thanks
Kio
30 Nov 09 at 5:47 pm
@Kio: Don’t attack lvl6 npc with balls. If you want lvl 6 and up use archers and expect alot of losses but atleast archers are faster to train.
Lvl 5 npc- Arch 10 HBR 8
Hero att 100+
350 balls no losses
Hero 80 with 350 balls has 4-10 losses
Hero 80 with 390 balls no losses
Qwaz
14 Dec 09 at 11:17 am
LVL 5 npc – arch 8 HBR 6
hero att 91
560 ballis no losses…
server 112
battle112.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091218/f9/ee/f9ee250a76c3263a33a9183fe437e4aa.xml
sharks
18 Dec 09 at 10:19 pm
lv 5 npc
470 transports 340 balls
hero lv-54 atk-119
hero level does matter
MT- 10
Iron W- 8
logistic- 7
HBR- 9
Archery-10
Compass- 5
Medicine-7
Joe O
23 Dec 09 at 5:55 am
here’s proof
battle97.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091222/8f/e5/8fe547151ab65097020cedd26018a297.xml
Joe O
23 Dec 09 at 7:06 am
Lord Geophrey on server 5
All researches at lvl 10
All Heros above 80
I have been using the following for lvl 5′s for months with 0 losses:
408 transports (any less u dont get all the resources)
395 ballis
if I have a 130 atk hero I use 365 ballis with 0 loss
if I have a 157 atk hero I use 338 ballis with 0 loss
Once you try to attack lvl 6 npc or higher their defenses change and that is why u take a loss
Attacking anything other than a lvl 5 or 10 npc is a waste of resources: (I hit 3-10 lvl 10′s per day as well)
Geophrey
6 Jan 10 at 9:17 pm
I am using 350 Ballistae and 420 transporters when farming level 5 npcs, tech levels are as follows: Arch/10, hbr/9, MT/10, IW/10, Compass/10. No losses has been incurred provided hero attack level is not lower than 88. also tried 325 ballistae on level 5s, no losses when hero attack is 120 or higher. btw, I am on server 101
Vincent III
7 Jan 10 at 8:45 am
I should add for newer guys how to attack level 5′s with minimum losses:
500 ballistas 600 transports 1 cavary 1 warrior all you lose is the cavary and the warrior
Geophrey
10 Jan 10 at 1:16 am
can you send the war report when you hit the lvl 6 NPC’s thanx
El Duke
12 Jan 10 at 6:46 pm
Geophrey, actually you can use 400 tran, 400 bal with no losses on a lvl 5 NPC. I have 10 Arch, 9 HB, and 10 logistics. Have used lvl 80+ heroes and no losses but sometimes don’t win the fight with lvl 80 – 90 hero (still no loss though).
dustjms
19 Jan 10 at 7:51 pm
Kio, don’t attack lvl 6 NPC’s with ballistas you will always lose them. lvl 6 NPC and higher have Trebuchets for defense and unless u send Catapults to take them out you will suffer huge losses. Stick to lvl5 NPC’s for farming with Ballistas and you will suffer 0 losses with your tech lvls
rhoeck
21 Jan 10 at 4:01 pm
BS you suffer 0 losses against lvl6 NPC with only trans and balls…..theres no way! post a war report.
lvl6 npc has trebuchets and you WILL suffer losses sending only transporters and ballistas
rhoeck
21 Jan 10 at 4:05 pm
Hi all. I use 400 trans and 400 ballistas with attack hero 90 an upwards with no loses. With attack hero 130 + i use 350 ballistas and 400 trans and no loss.
BigSean
22 Jan 10 at 1:26 am
actually it depends on the lv of tech u have and the lv of hero…..u dont need to send anything else than ballists for lv 5 nps,,,,500 will b more than enough for lv 9 arch,,but ur HBR shd b good too,but if u hav lv 10 arch u dont need to get higher HBR,,even lv 1 will b good.
saddowal
22 Jan 10 at 9:02 pm
Well, you can throw all this out. As of today, 1/25/2010, this is all changed for level5 NPCs. At least on our server. I’ve been losing ballistas left and right today. I had been sending 550 Ballista with a 60+ attack hero, using level 10 arch, level 6 Hbr with no problems. Until today. Now, doing that same thing with a 100+ attack hero will cost anywhere from 10 to as many as 65 Ballista. Not sure why the change, but watch out. Hopefully this is either a temporary bug, or someone will get us some new numbers on how to attack level 5 without losses.
AllieCat
26 Jan 10 at 2:29 am
It’s practically impossible to have zero losses when you farm lvl 6 or high b/c they have trebuchets, whereas lvl 5 and below do not. Even if you send a tremendous amount of ballista, you’re still likely to incur minor losses.
nadabada
27 Jan 10 at 5:24 am
can you send me attack report for lv 6 attack thank you
ghigh
1 Feb 10 at 4:36 pm
im farming lvl 5 npcs right now with no losses.
hero:lvl 29 91 att
500 transport
1045 balls
and
Hero: lvl 35 82 att
345 tran
500 balls
metal cast 7, mil science 6, mil tradition 10
iron working 9, hbr 6, archery lvl 10,
Amp
2 Feb 10 at 3:34 am
Ive read on various sites that increasing horseback riding too high brings your ballistae too close to archers towers too quickly so they can be taken out! and also look at the heros level whos defending it! If its too high theres a good chance that you’ll take losses!!
yojimbob
3 Feb 10 at 1:18 am
what do i nead to take a l.v.10 npc
im on server 118 and i am in alliance RENERGADE in NORTH MARCH
Connzzz
17 Feb 10 at 2:57 pm
I’ve been hitting Lvl. 5 NPC with 400 ballistas and 450 transporters with no loses
Lord Martin
19 Feb 10 at 5:39 pm
o.k i take 460 ballistas and 460 transports , lvl 10 archery,lvl 9 horseback to lvl 5barbs and get no losses.bring on the 5mil food
lord smashalot
4 Mar 10 at 12:50 pm
3mil* lol
lord smashalot
4 Mar 10 at 12:51 pm
use 400 ballista a 105+ atk hero 550 trans with lv10 archery and u win.
Fair plunder too
person1998
10 Mar 10 at 12:56 am
Farming Lv5s is good for Freedom medals (which i am going for right now) Wisdom medals and Courage medals just saying.
person1998
10 Mar 10 at 12:58 am
AND NEVER USE BALLISTA ON LV9 AND 10 NPCS VERY HEAVY LOSSES!!!!!!!!!
person1998
10 Mar 10 at 1:00 am
horse back riding should always be 1 level below archery other wise ballis get to close before firing resulting in losses you can hit a level 5 npc with 485 ballis no losse with level 8 archery level 9 archery
tell01
20 Mar 10 at 9:16 pm
previous should read 8 hbr 9 archery
tell01
20 Mar 10 at 9:17 pm
i didnt get any prestige!!!!!!!!
GameFreak
3 Apr 10 at 10:07 pm
I sent about 1800 ballistas against a lvl 6 NPC and I lost I think 200 ballistas.
Why did it not work, my archery is 10, HBR is 8, all my research is good and it still didn’t work?
Rewster18
7 Apr 10 at 10:38 am
hi guys i don’t no how thick u all are but u will always have losses with NPC’S lvl6+ so lvl5Npc’s and below are the only 1s u can farm with out losses and if ur questioning this i have proff bc definsive trebutchets will hit u bad
dude4321
18 Apr 10 at 11:12 am
oh yea guys to get less losses u have HBR lvl10 archery lvl0 Mt lvl0 and send trans for lvl6 NPC just send like 5kbailsta it sounds alot but if u send this u will prob get less losses bc the bailsta destroy most things
if u want even less losses send even more bailsta guys and if u want 10k pres hit a lvl8NPC with 98kwarriors and 1.5ktrans or if u want 20kpres u hit a lvl8NPC with 80kwarriors and 2ktrans TY u for liesting and btw website u need to no that u cannot have losses with lvl6NPC+
dude4321
18 Apr 10 at 11:42 am
Hi..
Yesterday i was attacking a lvl 5 NPC..
I sent 595 ballistas and around 600 transporters.
That was all i had and i thought it would be more than enought.
My atackhero has 121 attack.
My archery is lvl 7 and hbr lvl 3.
I lost EVERYTHING….
The strange thing is that the battle report is blank.
This is the messsage
“you failed to wipe out 10% of the enemys army and fortification, no intelligance was revieved”
So i have no idea how many and what army was in the city.. the only thing i know is that i list all my ballistas and transporters..
Can enyone explain this.. acording to this guide it would be more than enought to send arounf 600 ballistas on o lvl 5 npc.. ?
xJURGHx
13 May 10 at 2:30 pm
attack lvl 5 npc no loses,
server 133
archery lvl 8
HBR lvl 6
MT lvl 9
hero att 071 more or less no problem
logistık lvl 7
transporter 470
balısta 500
baba
17 May 10 at 1:49 am
what do i attack a level 7 NPC with
i have full research and a hero with 100 attack what do i send????
hazzabazza
18 May 10 at 7:46 pm
is it possilbe to farm a npc. lv 8 with no losses?
elven
19 May 10 at 4:35 am
Attacked lv5 npc with: lv10 archery 1200 ballista 2k trans 6k archer 5k pike+sword 100 rams, lost everything but trans and ballista lost a couple tho
Cameron
19 May 10 at 11:38 pm
Oh and lv42 hero with 103 attack my acount is cameron.
server: 106
Cameron
19 May 10 at 11:38 pm
i hit a level 5 with 650 ballista and still lost 33
technology is max
and hero attack was 70
ali
29 May 10 at 12:35 pm
I just lost 1550 Ballista and 1200 transporter against lvl6 NPC…..I want a refund!!!!! Give me back buy troops…..it took me hours to make them…..I am on NA15.
Zub
31 May 10 at 5:52 am
FYI…my attack hero is 141
Zub
31 May 10 at 5:53 am
BULLSHIT!!! THIS THING IS BULLSHIT, I attacked a level 3 mpc with 400 ballistic 6 attacks and i lost all of them !!! thanks TO YOU!!!
ANGRY READER!!!!
2 Jun 10 at 6:03 pm
If you lost all of them that would be because your attack hero was too low or your logistics and archery. Or your just full of crap.
Desdemona
11 Jun 10 at 4:23 am
using 170 trans/170 ball to attack a lv 4 no losses
Arc is at 9 and hbr is at 6 (or was anyhow) now its at 9 as well.
Desdemona
11 Jun 10 at 4:25 am
I have been enjoyably playing this game for 2 weeks now and get alsorts of advice. Mostly very misleading just like this guide, but atleast it says its a guide! Best thing is to test with trial and error, nothing in these GAMES are fixed. Just like real life we get a surprise now and again. So lets stop complaining and bad language about this site and give the guy who took the time to write this some credit. (WELL DONE – GOOD START) looking forward to the update.
Travian is more of a consistant game, so if you want same, same, same go there!
My experiences.
L1 npc – 18 ballista – 40 trans
L2 npc – 48 ballista – 75 trans
L3 npc – 150 ballista – 130 trans
L4 npc – 245 ballista – 150 trans
Hero – L46 Attack 152
Archery – L9
MT – L9
HBR – L5 (I read the comments about being lower than archery!)
These numbers are always with no loss and with a very high treasure drop rate on L3′s one medal every 3-4 attacks, Gems 1 in 2 attacks, Scripts about 10%. (All1 server Age2).
Satisfied Customer
16 Jun 10 at 8:15 am
I attacked a lv6 npc with 500 ballistae lv10 archery lv9 military tradition, And lv8 Horse back riding
I have 1200 ballista now, i’m building up for a lv7 plunder.
cameron
18 Jun 10 at 10:57 pm
lvl 1 = 50bal/50trans
lvl 2 = 100bal/100trans
lvl 3 = 200bal/200trans
lvl 4 = 300bal/300trans
lvl 5 = 400bal/400trans
Zero losses. Been doing it for months. If you are getting ANY losses, you need to upgrade your Archery, Compass, or HBR.
xzombeex
21 Jun 10 at 1:12 pm
Been hitting lvl 5′s with no losses for some time now. 500 balls, 400 trans. MT and Arch: lvl 10, HBR: 9
Server5.
Lvl 6- 1300 balls, 700 trans + 1 of each other type of soldier. Expect to loose 230-260 balls each attck though!
murdoch
24 Jun 10 at 2:56 am
I can’t believe France lost. How quick was that. I really assumed that they had a solid opportunity to do well in this years world cup. Maybe it was just bad luck. Maybe its time to jump on the Argentina bandwagon. Looks like Demichelis has already scored. Go Argentina. To turn around my day that was ruined by France, I have been watching some funny jokes.. This joke is super funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3j7uSbccSc
Jillian Golden
26 Jun 10 at 6:05 pm
what most of you might not understand is that you must have archery and horse back riding equil or you will be taking losses. if your archery is 9 and hbr is 5 you will take losses on balls everytime for level 5 npc. archery/hbr : 7/6, 8/7, 9/8 10/9, 10/10, are the best options for attacking
bennihana
30 Jun 10 at 5:44 pm
right now, i can hit a level 5npc with 1500 ballistae and take no losses…so long as accompanied by 1000 cannon-feed warriors (good to boost exp)
Dominus910
30 Jun 10 at 8:14 pm
Server ss17 – Level 10 Max Research on All – 300 Ballistas, 300 Transporters Attacking a Level 5 NPC. Zero Losses. Hero ATT 130. This is done within 1 Mile targets. Troop losses may happen when further targets are attacked. The higher the food you send with them, helps too.
Adding 2000 Warriors to be slaughtered with the Ballistas and Transporters gives your hero higher experience outcome with each attack. You will get back 10% of your losses, so be sure to heal them in your rally spot when the attack lands. I have noticed you may lose 2-3 ballistas every 10 or so attacks in some cases. A Really high attack hero as your mayor will shorten training times. My heroes are at 187 ATT and 1 warrior can be made every 3 seconds.
Himself
1 Jul 10 at 12:33 am
Attacked a lvl 6 NPC with 900 ballistas and lost all of them.
Julio
16 Jul 10 at 12:35 pm
thought provoking post! I believe that benefits me well. Answers a few questions for me. thank u!
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14 Sep 10 at 7:13 am
i attack l5 npc with 300 ballista 450 trans and never loose any will need l8 arch and horse back riding but its worth it moveing on to l10 npc attack with 95k arch 1k war,1kpike ,1k sword along with 3k trans u will loose 10k-15k archer and all of ur 1 k pipke sword and war but its worth it 19mill food
paddyd
19 Sep 10 at 1:30 pm
Just wondering if anyone has tried for no level horseback riding and no level compass.
Going for a continually out-ranging strategy, killing everything before it gets to close.
Also chuck in some workers or warriors to take the rolling log hits?
The no level compass to keep your warriors/ workers out of enemy range until they can be sacrificed on the logs.
Or maybe upgrading your horseback so the ballista are just slower than workers/ warriors. (if the warriors get killed by coming in range before ballista kills the enemy units)
I just think this might be worth investigating.
King Jamietron
4 Oct 10 at 7:10 am
No idea what the hell happened I set 2885 Ballistas at a lvl 6 NPC i LOST 2618 my hero had 127 Attack and i had Lvl 10 Archery i have all the def and att stuff in academy to lvl 10 i also used a Ivory Horn
Josh
5 Oct 10 at 4:03 am
I would start with 500 BAlista & 500 Trnsports on Lvl 5 and then work down until you start taking losses.
I am at almost full level (9 &10) on every quality and require
450 trans & 490 balista with any level hero .
No need for other troops
Steve 789
8 Oct 10 at 3:53 am
I just attacked a level 7 with over 1800 ballistas, with level 10 archery and 121 Hero attach and got them all taken out.
I don’t know what to say.
Daniel
30 Oct 10 at 12:42 am
This chart only works to level 5… you can only farm up to level 5 npcs on most age 2 servers before you start taking loses
Kiilswitch
10 Dec 10 at 6:26 pm
I just attacked a level 7 with over 2000 ballistas, with level 10 archery and militart tredition and 125 + Hero attack and lost everything.
Ali
23 Dec 10 at 8:10 pm
I attacked a lv6 with 1300 ballista and lost everything
Eddie
1 Jan 11 at 9:06 pm
IM COUNTING ON THIS INFO!
JAYSTER
5 Jan 11 at 3:16 am
how do we get rose medals??????
anand
9 Jan 11 at 8:21 am
i sent 100 balliastas and it says conqer unseccessful what do i do?
cggfk
22 Jan 11 at 1:58 am
dude getting rose medals is so easy try attacking level 3 valleys with 200 troops kepp on doing it like 50x and you will have more than 15 rose medals
cggfk
22 Jan 11 at 2:06 am
how much balli do we need for attacking a lvl10 npc
anand
23 Jan 11 at 11:18 am
You take losses Level 6 and up, no matter what you use. I attacked a Level 6 with 900 Ballistas and lost 190 of them. My hero had around 95 Attack, Level 10 Archery, Level 7 Horseback Riding, Level 8 Military Tradition, and Level 7 Medicine.
Also, make sure you Archery is higher then your Horseback Riding, or you will die.
James
27 Jan 11 at 9:45 pm
i used 1k on lvl 5 works plus sent 1k or more trans
Robinn
5 Feb 11 at 1:44 pm
It would be nice if someone could update this thread currently. It’s March of 2011 now, and I doubt I’m the only player looking for some benchmark from which to begin ballista-versus-level-whatever-valley-farming. The ballista is a terrible thing to waste…
SilverWarrior
24 Mar 11 at 12:57 am
D:
F16
1 Apr 11 at 1:00 am
F16
1 Apr 11 at 1:01 am
I used 900 ballista on a level 6 and lost them all. My attack hero is level 119 Military Tradition level 10 Horse Back Riding level 8
thebucster
21 Apr 11 at 6:23 pm
Thanks for making me lose 900 balistai =_=
0Bama
13 May 11 at 5:55 am
if your all research level 10 you need only 400 Balls and 400 transports to loot a Level 5 npc
Akku
11 Jun 11 at 3:11 pm
u cannot farm lvl 5 and higher npcs without losses my suggestion for farming higher than that is get mil trad and iron working to lvl 10 and farm with 100k warriors 2 waves with lvl 30 or higher heros with minimum of 100 attack rating new updates show that rockfalls kill ballistas rolling logs do not here is a lost of ballistas needed for farming 1-4 npcs
these are based off minimum requirements for each troop
friendly reminder about ballistas
always have hbr 1-2 lvls below your archery to keep your ballistas from suiciding they dont stop to attack so they charge and die if they move to attack faster than there range will allow (dumb evony glitch)
lvl 1 = 50 ballista 250 xports
lvl 2 = 125 ballista 500 xports
lvl 3 = 500 ballista 1250 xports
lvl 4 = 750 ballista 3500 xports
lvl 1 valley = 100 archers
lvl 2 valley = 300 archers
lvl 3 valley = 500 archers
lvl 4 and higher = scout first if no archers send x archers equal to x troops (x2 for swordsman)
if archers in valley u will lose troops no matter what
hope this helps let me know if this doesnt work but it has been proven to work for me
DARKBLOUD
12 Jun 11 at 4:31 pm
if u want to take a lvl 10 npc u need 300k archers and 500k warriors and 3 heros with a minimum of 150 attack preferably higher to lessen troop loss u will need a lvl 9 or higher rallyspot and feasting hall to send 9-10 waves at a time also u will need it to be no farther that a maximum of 2 miles away get compass military trad iron working and medicine as close to ten as possible archery has to be ten in order for this to work do not attempt if u do not have these things u are not ready
start with a 100k archer wave to weaken the 400k warriors in the lvl 10 if your hero is not high enough all 100k will die make sure to use penicillin horn and corslet to lessen losses then follow up with a wave of 50k archers 50k warriors that will hit 10secs after first wave following that 100k warriors hitting 10 secs after thatloyalty waves of 50k warriors every 10 secs till loyalty is 0 then its yours
DARKBLOUD
12 Jun 11 at 4:38 pm
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200 att hero even sent a lil extra and got BURNED
Avery cooper
21 Sep 11 at 2:32 am