Ballista Nerf and rockfalls patch June 01.09
It seems there has been another change to the way ballistas work when attacking NPC villages. They have been changed in a patch June 01.09 but no patch notes have been released. It is really a bad habit to change the mechanics of the game without releasing patch notes, and I hope UMGE will stop doing that.
Anyways, it seems it’s almost impossible now to attack NPC villages with ballistas without any losses. Even 30,000 ballistas against a level 6 NPC village didn’t work without losses now. Some says it is rockfalls that have been changed, but it seems you loose ballistas even if there are no rockfalls in the NPC village. For now, I’d suggest holding back with NPC attacks with ballistas untill the patch notes are posted and we know more.
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Soaks
1 Jun 09 at 1:26 pm
Seems like ranged units now advance even though they are within range. Making them contact with enemy infantry.
K.
Kometkamerat
1 Jun 09 at 6:20 pm
Level 5 and below are still safe, since they do not have rockfall. However, as ranged units now advance, if you do not have enough ballista to obliterate everything before they come into range, you will incur losses. i have successfully attacked lvl 5′s with 1k ballista without any losses.
anon
1 Jun 09 at 8:03 pm
I agree with your comments RE:UMGE unannounced rule changes. Thanks for the post in regards to this.
Karim
1 Jun 09 at 8:49 pm
i lost 3500 balistas because of that
wu_zmit
2 Jun 09 at 12:03 am
Can anyone tell me if this Nerf affects Catapults? Or are you able to use mass catapults to farm npc’s? Somone should make a table for catapults.
Snorlax
3 Jun 09 at 1:29 am
I have been having problems with attacking NPC level 5′s ever since the patch. I attacked with 500 warriors, 500 transports and 1200 ballistas and lost everything. Could it be my here who has 5 politics, 83 attack, and 8 intelligence? I just don’t understand it, it must be my hero?
RockyTank
6 Jun 09 at 1:52 am
i’ve been attacking npc lvl 1 with 25 balls and have no problem with it
thnguyen24
6 Jun 09 at 6:47 pm
have been attacking lvl 5 npc’s with 600 balista for a few days now without losses. trick seems to be to have archery 2 levels above your hbr.
since i can do it with my attack hero (who started at 91) and my int hero (who still has 44 att) and no losses what so ever
Pretender
13 Jun 09 at 3:22 pm
I attacked a lvl5 npc with 20k warriors, 1500 ballistas and lost everything…? My archery was lvl7
Leilu
14 Jun 09 at 11:13 am
hi
wats da latest on attackin npc with ballistas
can some1 give me a reliable formula
i just lost 300 balistas against a lv 4 npc
imoe
20 Jun 09 at 10:16 pm
do not ever send in the calvaries…… they will let the enimy kill all your troops
....
25 Jun 09 at 3:00 pm
Boys, its just about archery/HBR. You need 8/5, 8/9, 9/8, or 9/9 for 0 losses on a lvl 5 npc.
come on kids. common knowledge paya ttention
Red_Queen
28 Jun 09 at 7:51 pm
Did anyone test the math of Queenie..?
And how does the math work for higher levels, Queenie?
Chezz
4 Jul 09 at 7:32 pm
lvl 10 archery lvl 9 hbr for a lvl 5 npc with 0 losses 800 ballistas
jt
25 Jul 09 at 3:13 am
what about lvl 1 through 4? im a new player and getting some free resources from low level npc villages sounds good. but im only 8 days old. so my archery is only 1 and 0 hbr haha! so when can i attack lvl 1 ~ 4 and without with minimal losses?
dnst3
29 Jul 09 at 7:16 am
lvl 9 Archery
lvl 9 HBR
lvl 9 Mil Tradition
lvl 5 npc can be taken with hero of 50+ atk with 360 ballistas
Hero of 93 atk can take them with 315 ballistas (90+ turns)
battle18.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090803/dc/2c/dc2ce6f96473d0568e50f702bd85db36.xml
Same hero against lvl 6 NPC with 1200 ballistas was victorious, but lost 283 ballistas. Will try again in a week when I reach Archery lvl 10.
Wilbon
4 Aug 09 at 5:25 am
i would like to see the option of testing against towers and other fortifications in the rally spot exercise…but i guess that would take some fun outta the game….
i would like to know….can scouts see the enemies; allied garrisoned troops or not? do they remain hidden from view….just like they do if your friends are garrisoned in your city (we only know they are there…in the embassy…but no numbers)
i think this is a valid point
arapototo
12 Aug 09 at 5:46 am
I just went for 1056 ballistas on a lv5, without ANY loss. Lv8 archery.
Niki
30 Aug 09 at 11:07 am
i have attacked lvl 5 npc’s with 300 billistas,without any loss. lvl 10 archery required
miguel
2 Sep 09 at 8:20 pm
level 6 arch//level 5 hbr//90 attack hero///105 balls////npc level 3///server 57…..no losses….big exp for hero…nerf math is hard. I’ve heard elsewhere that level 6 arch is good but 7 and 8 are bad and then 9 is good again????
itismemario
19 Sep 09 at 5:16 am
I have arch/hbr 9/9 attacked a level 5 npc with 500 ballista and lost the lot. Started to notice some small losses 40 – 50 balls then sent in 900 and lost all of them. This one NPC seems to be cursed.
battle25.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091005/34/b8/34b86cf05a13159fb6bd35ec07cb8aef.xml – last loss
battle25.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091003/f5/f5/f5f5c1409ad4c148d59bac62cd5d5798.xml – big loss
battle25.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091002/b7/35/b735b703fc66cb538ed953d3b0e5a0e9.xml – started getting losses
Chas
6 Oct 09 at 12:38 am
arch 10 hbr 5 – lv5 500ball/trans = 0 losses. hero was 60 attack
Itami
21 Oct 09 at 1:43 am
ok everyone here it is for a level 5 your hbr should be 1 less than your archery ie archery8 hbr 7 this should be up until 10 thats for no losses troops you need 500 ballista and 500 transporters(for farming)i can do it with any level hero but my tech level is 10 in everything i have the npc no loss info for troops you should use im on na19 name of thornwood
thornwood
12 Oct 10 at 3:22 pm