Attacking NPC barbarian cities without losses
Yes, it’s possible to attack barbarian NPC villages without any losses at all. You get a lot of experience for your hero when you’re doing this as well as lots of resources. I’ve done this with villages up to level 5 so far, but I will attack higher once I get enough troops to do so. Read on to figure out how.
What you need to do this sucessfully is ballistas, yes these wonderfull siege weapons that are great at shooting down archer towers. You also need a lot of transporters if you want to get all the resources back home. How many you ballistas you need depends on the level of the NPC village as well as your technology bonuses and hero attack bonus.
Here is a attack report from me attacking a level 5 NPC barbarian city. 600 ballistas should be enough here as long as you have a hero with around 80 attack. I haven’t tested the minumum you need yet, but better safe than sorry.
I’d advice you to build a city real close to a lvl 5 or 6 NPC village so that you can raid it every hour you’re online. Doing this will make you a lot of resources as well as tons of experience for your hero. If you don’t have enough ballistas yet, keep building those level 9 barracks and train ballistas in them. I hope this tip was helpful, feel free to leave comments or questions.
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What amount of balistas to take out a lvl 6 barb city?
Ajschwin
13 May 09 at 8:57 pm
I hadn’t done that when writing the article, 1200 ballistas can take out both a level 6 and a level 7 NPC village though, tried that now and got a report from a friend. You probably need even less for the level 6, but I haven’t had the need to test that out yet.
Iwind
15 May 09 at 12:17 am
hey do you no how many you need for a lvl 8 city?
zakuto
15 May 09 at 5:23 am
Keep in mind though, once you hit npc lvl 9, your ballistas will be nailed by the archer towers, you lose your first hit advantages. So on top of the 50k or so ballistas needed to take out the warriors, you’ll need even more for the archer towers and you WILL have losses.
Bavarian
15 May 09 at 11:27 am
I was wondering how this strategy transfers to attacking real players, If all the players techs are 5 and the defences and units equal too then it would be the same outcome right?
Turnover
16 May 09 at 6:42 am
@Turnover:
Yeah, you can use this strategy against players too, most will probably have more troops though, and if they open the gates with a lot of troops your ballistas will die.
Iwind
16 May 09 at 11:57 pm
I’ve done lvl 5 NPCs with 500 ballistas and 560 transports no losses only lvl 7 archery.
Ponky
19 May 09 at 3:07 am
Has anyone tried this with catapults yet and would they work with lvl9 and 10 npc’s as catapults have more range?
Grim
25 May 09 at 7:04 pm
do you think 1,000 ballista would be enough for a lvl 6 barb city, its right next to me so i want enuf ballista for it?
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Matty
27 May 09 at 10:01 pm
Two ideas on this subject:
First:
If you have a range advantage your archers and ballis get one free shot. You will always win clean if you have both greater range and at least one balli/archer for each opposing unit.
If you are going balli on archer you should get two free shots, so you only need 1 balli for each 2 opposing troops. If you also have a higher archery level you can get by with fewer.
That is a reasonable guide for what to send.
The second thought is this: Do you really WANT to win without ANY losses. I think that the answer is ‘No’. If you don’t lose any troops you don’t get any medals for the attack. (I grant that if you do lose, you only might get a medal.) The resources you get for raiding a city are essential for growing your city, but the medals are required for you to get higher ranks.
Long-term that advancing your rank is at least as important as building the towns you have. Adding a low-level troop to your attack lets you do both.
as df
5 Jul 09 at 11:11 am
there’s a bug in horseback riding 7 and 8?
ima
8 Jul 09 at 6:59 am
dude! i just hit a level 5 npc, 96 attack hero, 900 ballistas, 600 trnsports and lost! what the hell!
Wall
15 Jul 09 at 10:58 pm
sense the July 1st patch you can no longer attack npc’s lvl 6 and over with no casualties even with 10 archery, military tradition, iron working, and horseback riding. for 6 and above you MUST use catapults as they will out range the archers towers and trebuchets.
distman
20 Jul 09 at 4:00 am
to answer your question I had the same problem.. somewhere in july there was a code change.. to attack a lvl 5 npc or higher you need archery level 9.. I just confirmed this after losing 1000 balista in two attacks a few days ago.. waiting until archery finished lvl 9 .. then attacking again and winning with only 400 ballista… I hope this helps
Thomas
21 Jul 09 at 8:20 am
I also have HBR lvl 9 and someone also said haveing your relief station level 8 helps.. don’t know if that part is true..
Thomas
21 Jul 09 at 8:21 am
i know that for :
lvl ballistas
1 35(lvl 7 archer)
2 50(lvl 7 archer)
3 150(lvl 7 archer)
4 350
5 600
6 1000
7 2500
8 3500
9 unknown
10 unknown
jp
22 Jul 09 at 2:03 pm
level 9 npc is 5,000 with 0 dead
level 10 npc is 6,500 with 0 dead
npc
28 Jul 09 at 6:44 am
Just hit a level 9 with 10k balista and 10k warriors. Lost. Have an attack over 100.
Jonathan
3 Aug 09 at 7:19 pm
I have done successfully with:
lvl 1 – 15 ballistas, archery 6
lvl 2 – 40 ballistas, archery 6
sa
4 Aug 09 at 7:44 pm
I just hit a lvl 6 barb with 1000 ballistas and lost 307 with lvl 10 archery an 9 HB Riding (was told that has something to do with your attack).
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090806/f6/86/f686b054e98a92a6f93bf3100b935f53.xml
So it doesn’t look like a 1000 will do it. Will try 1250 next.
Kurt
6 Aug 09 at 9:27 pm
Even at 1500 ballistas (lvl 10 arch/9 HB riding), I had 293 losses:
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090806/3b/ab/3bab1ee83860df166856ef8f9fd5ebb6.xml
If what one of the guys said above is true that you need to go in with a 2:1 soldier/ballista, you will need more like 3500 to not take any losses. Will try that next.
Kurt
6 Aug 09 at 10:20 pm
Went in with 4000 ballista against a lvl 6 barb and still lost 291:
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090807/a2/1a/a21a6e1234b58abffc81f546153fb771.xml
Looks like you will take losses on anything above 5.
Kurt
7 Aug 09 at 3:03 pm
I can attack npc lv.4 with 205 ballista and have no losses. All research is lv 10 except hbr is lv.9
npc lv5 i use 450 ballista and have no losses. Attack hero is around 75.
Alvori
10 Aug 09 at 2:24 pm
Boring for you advanced guys.
how many Ballistas for a level 2 NPC.
Also does teh level of heor matter or just attack points I assumed higher level hero with lower level attack pijnts better. i.e. Hero 30 with 38 attack points better than Hero 20 with 80 attack points
Brendan
11 Aug 09 at 5:10 am
I would go with the hero at level 20 with 80 pts. His attack would be far superior to the other one with only 38.
Keith
13 Aug 09 at 8:49 pm
@as df, who says: “the second thought is this: Do you really WANT to win without ANY losses. I think that the answer is ‘No’. If you don’t lose any troops you don’t get any medals for the attack.”
that’s not true
I’ve gotten plenty of courage, wisdom and freedom medals of lvl 5 npc’s without losing any troops
simon
15 Aug 09 at 9:21 pm
i do it with archery 9, HB 8, medicine 8, military tradition8 and iron working 8.
NPC lv4: 200 ballistas, 300 transporters (bring back all resources)
NPC lv5: 500 ballistas, 450 transporters (bring back all resources)
Miduins
16 Aug 09 at 7:31 am
• Lvl 1 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 30 Ballista
• Lvl 2 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 50 Ballista
• Lvl 3 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 150 Ballista
• Lvl 4 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 300 Ballista
• Lvl 5 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 600 Ballista
• Lvl 6 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 900 Ballista
• Lvl 7 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 2500 Ballista
• Lvl 8 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 3500 Ballista
• Lvl 9 NPC BARB CITY – Requires approx 9600 Ballista (My attack hero was 156 attack)
ap0110
23 Aug 09 at 6:45 pm
Level 1: 20 ballistae (archery lvl 6 HBR lvl 5 and Military tradition lvl 5)- you will have no losses
Level 2: 50 ballistae (archery lvl 7 HBR lvl 5 and Military tradition lvl 5)- you will have no losses
Level 3: 150 ballistae (archery lvl 7 HBR lvl 6 and Military tradition lvl 6)- you will have no losses
Level 4: 250 ballistae (archery lvl 7 HBR lvl 6 and Military tradition lvl 6)- you will have no losses
:]
Eros
30 Aug 09 at 11:13 pm
I LOST ALL 1200 ballistae attacking a lvl 6 barb…
Hero att is 106 and Arc lvl is 9
Heart pain…..
Chubby
4 Sep 09 at 3:23 am
Hitting 70-100 NPC a day, I have a simple routine to select numbers, just so I don’t hit the wrong key – besides it gets them out for a bit. I know you can do it with less, continually messing around with numbers and lots of advice, but why worry. I have 20k of ballistas so for me it doesn’t matter, but if you are short on Ballistas or Transports take ten off each attack until losses appear. Example: I can hit a level 5 with only 480 BAL with no losses, but it is easier for me personally to stick to the numbers that first worked for me.
LVL1/2 NPC, 60TR and 60BAL – no losses
LV3 NPC, 150TR and 150BAL – no losses
LV4 NPC, 400TR and 400BAL – no losses
LVL5 NPC, 500TR and 600BAL – no losses
LVL6 NPC, 600TR and 750/850TR – you will always get losses on 6
Anything over this, unless you are point and medal chasing, is not worth the resources, versus losses.
My archery is 10, HBC 10, Hero Level and his Attack doesn’t matter at all on 1-5NPC as this is how I level up heroes from Level 1. I wait until he has amassed points and level him for other tasks (attacking players, mayor etc) as I can keep him on minimum wage until he is needed. Probably not a worry to anyone who hasn’t amassed huge armies requiring lots of heroes.
Hope this helps…it works for me.
ShadyDave
4 Sep 09 at 10:04 pm
Brilliant ShadyDav, I was wondering why people said abouit hero level as me doesn’t matter either. I try hero as levl 2 with 25 attack and it worked.
MopioQ
4 Sep 09 at 10:07 pm
i havent lost one ballist with lv9 archery and lv 6, 7 or 8 HBR
lv1 15-20B 23+ trans
lv2 50B 35+ trans
lv3 100B 125+ trans
lv4 200B 235+ trans
lv5 500B 423+ trans
and any hero, didnt matter which one i used, still won no loss
enjoy
brenda
5 Sep 09 at 6:21 am
When attacking Level 6 NPC’s and above you should have at least lvl 9 archery and your hbr should the same or less never more, and attack with at least 1k ballista and use something like 1k warriors. The reason for this is for the enemy archer towers to aim at the warriors before your ballista. You will loss the warriors aand maybe a few ballista but warriors or both cheaper and quicker to build back. Also you should use a hero with at least 100 attack rating. To the issue of medals, they depend on the NPC being full of resourses and troops and your heroes intelligance lvl. Don’t keep attacking the same city in quick raids, let it grow back (about 60 minutes).
triumphtim
8 Sep 09 at 11:45 pm
Level 4 300 ball
battle28.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090912/96/81/96813983b8a651470fd32718a135a482.xml
Level 5 450 ball
battle28.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090912/08/be/08be9777008f7635d1ab6c660b326ce0.xml
DaCheese
12 Sep 09 at 3:01 pm
the heroes attack was irrelevant since Archery lvl 10 and HBR 8
Your HBR must be 2 lvl lower than your Archery for guaranteed 0 loses (no matter the heroes attack score – more than 10 points of course)
DaCheese
12 Sep 09 at 3:03 pm
how many catapults and transporters for lv4 npc with archery lvl6
Sadler
17 Sep 09 at 5:24 pm
Sadler how do you have catapults with lvl6 arch, doesn’t make sense.
Nishad
24 Sep 09 at 7:25 am
i got a mechanics battallion from the wheel, and i’m not out of BP yet. mechanics battalion is 100-400 ballistae, 100-250 rams, and 150-350 catapults.
questions:
1) should i open it up after my BP ends and start hitting higher lvl npcs?
2) how many catapults are needed to take out npc cities?
3) will i be able to afford the food needed to feed those mechanic pigs? (lol)
Pif
8 Oct 09 at 6:36 pm
I know guys that hit lvl 10 npc’s to farm. they say 20mil resources on a trip, but dont say anything else…
What do you think is good to use on a lvl10 with best loses? Hero lvl n all if needed..
-King of Kings-
*Halfblood*
Halfblood
14 Oct 09 at 10:02 am
Hey,
Im attackin 100 of npc daily and all i use is 395 ballistae.
Attack hero is 115 and it was workin but it is now 198 so could maybe go less than 395.
Techs are all lvl10 except HBR.
Also
Zonda
29 Oct 09 at 11:14 am
Hey,
Im attackin 100 of npc daily and all i use is 395 ballistae.
Attack hero is 115 and it was workin but it is now 198 so could maybe go less than 395.
Techs are all lvl10 except HBR.
Also i farm lvl10 npc daily so i can give tips on it.
Also lvl10 npc farming is SOOOOOO easy.
Zonda
29 Oct 09 at 11:15 am
I don’t know what exactly behind the Evony. I attacked a lv5 with 600 ballistas, hero 90+ attack, lv8 archery, hbr lv8 and I lost all.
Kien
1 Nov 09 at 3:39 am
Has nobody tried the rainbow technique on a level 6?
Just layer the troops, have one of every single troop go out and then your set number of ballista’s plus transporters.
SirSmith
2 Nov 09 at 6:03 pm
115k ballista layered, with follow up withing seconds after inital attack to carry the crap (second wave will require ballista as well since defenses are instantly rebuilt)
Jobe
4 Nov 09 at 2:41 am
battle83.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091111/f9/33/f933c646d1d26576dbdaae1db678fcad.xml this is my usual NPC lvl 5 farming attack, rarely lose any with any type of hero
Steele
11 Nov 09 at 7:59 pm
I have arch 9 hbr 8 MT 10 IW 10 hero attk 100+
Lvl5 NPC 375 ballistae + 444 transporters (all resources)… 0 losses.. With higher attk hero 125+.. only 350 ballistae required..
Vaten
13 Nov 09 at 12:47 am
i have been hitting lvl 5′s for some time now and have only experienced losses on my first attack 100% losses
….reason my HBR was equal to my archery(why its like that idk)…my ARCH finished shortly after 1st lvl 5 npc attack and i attacked again with 0 losses this time and have not lost a single ballista since. i usually farm 5′s at least 30x a day(troops eat 24mil a day!! yes 1mil an hr/city) and slowly reduced numbers, heres what i stopped at
i have 9 arch, 8 HBR, 9 MT, 8 IW, 6 Medicine…
440 ballista and enough trans to carry my loot 3.99 mil, my logistics is 7 and transports vary from 465 – 480
>>> battle81.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091113/61/df/61df748ff88236f5f06bee3f59865c87.xml
lvl 4 – 220 balls, 260 trans
lvl 3 – 145 balls, 135 trans
jcn_on_81
14 Nov 09 at 5:14 am
hero lvl does not matter on any npc 5 and lower, i have used every variety of hero and i still win, everything from my lv 2 – 35 atk to my lvl 20 – 89 atk….although i have been warned not to use too high attack hero. so dont worry too much about the hero!!
oh and i didnt post about lvl 3 and lower cos i dont atk em, but safe numbers ive seen are….lvl 1 – 20 balls….lvl 2 – 50 balls, lvl 3 – 170 balls, with my arch lvl i should be able to reduce those numbers to…15/40/150, wont try tho not worth the effort
Cheers
jcn_on_81
14 Nov 09 at 5:21 am
I’ve attacked level 4 Npc’s with only 200 ballista (8 archery atm) and took no losses.
Dylan
15 Nov 09 at 1:56 am
hey im looking to farm a lv 10 npc and i got a lv 10 city so i dont know the most efficient way to farm 1
daworldismine
19 Nov 09 at 9:51 pm
lv5: 340 ballista, arch 9, hbr 8, MT 10 att hero 117 no losses
lv5: 340 ballista, arch 9, hbr 8, MT 10 att hero 80 8 ball lost
-> attack hero does matter
lv4 attacked with 170 ballista, no losses
and the numbers do matter! the less you need to send, the less ballistas you need to feed, so you can have a bigger archers army.
iso 3 attacks with 500 ball, i can have 4 now 4 with 350 ballistas.
Wal Kover
20 Nov 09 at 11:29 am
July 5th of 2009 you said you need losses on an NPC attack to earn a medal. That may have been the case but this is no longer true. On server 28 I farm 5′s all day long and there are 3 different medals I get on a regular basis from them (with 0 losses). Honor, Wisdom, and Courage medals. Hope this helps!
Angel
28 Nov 09 at 10:20 pm
hear is a gide i found that mite help
this was befor the pach in july so on the lvl 5 and up is not the same but will put you in the ball park and to get started it’s grat
3. ATTACKING
Attacking low lvl NPC cities are mainly for resource and gold, this is done with ballista’s to achieve 0 loses. The maximum level without loses is level 5, level 6 or more have trebuchets so you will always suffer losses there.
But there are ARCHER TOWERS… so you need specific tech level of archery and Horseback Riding (HBR).
Archery 08 / HBR 03 (Massive losses due to being in tower range)
Archery 08 / HBR 04 (Smalls losses from units but @ tower safe range)
Archery 08 / HBR 05 (0 Losses )
Archery 08 / HBR 06 (0 Losses )
Archery 08 / HBR 07 ( Small losses )
Archery 08 / HBR 08 (Massive losses due to being in tower range)
Archery 08 / HBR 09 (Massive losses due to being in tower range.)
Archery 09 / HBR 01 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range)
Archery 09 / HBR 02 (0 Losses when using over 575 ballista’s )
Archery 09 / HBR 03 (0 Losses )
Archery 09 / HBR 05 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range)
Archery 09 / HBR 06 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range)
Archery 09 / HBR 07 (Small losses from units @ tower safe range)
Archery 09 / HBR 08 (0 Losses )
Archery 09 / HBR 09 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 00 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 05 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 06 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 07 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 08 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 09 (0 Losses )
Archery 10 / HBR 10 (0 Losses )
(copied from syoganai1111 thanks)
4. NUMBER OF BALISTAS TO ATTACK
This number depends on your hero ATTACK attribute, the safe numbers for heroes with no attack with 0 loses are:
(Note: You still need one of the above zero loss Archery/HBR combinations)
20 Ballista’s vs. Lvl1 NPC
50 Ballista’s vs. Lvl2 NPC
170 Ballista’s vs. Lvl3 NPC
250 Ballista’s vs. Lvl4 NPC
550 Ballista’s vs. Lvl5 NPC
DONT FORGET TO HAVE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTERS!! They are similar to ballista’s numbers so be sure that if you want farm you will take everything.
In previous thread you saw level of HBR/ARCH if there are small losses due to troops; number of ballista’s should be higher.
Okay this is end, hope that there is everything important about farming… i don’t mention medals because there have different drop rates on every server, and i don’t mentioned tactics about LVL10, everyone should conquer it on their own.
So i hope that this one helps, thanks to everyone who was making these strategies, I only copied them in one big thread.
sorry i dont know how is give the credit to for this i found it by serching (farming NCP’s) and found this i have tested it to lvl 4 ncp and it works to ther and am shere it will ti lvl 5 the founder of the allince im in hase told me and he know his stuff
lovell
5 Dec 09 at 1:43 am
hear is some more that will help
Resources Transports Needed per Logistics Level
Food
Lumber
Stone
Iron
Gold
Total lvl 0 lvl 1 lvl 2 lvl 3 lvl 4 lvl 5 lvl 6 lvl 7 lvl 8 lvl 9 lvl 10
NPC Lvl 1 100,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 55,000 215,000 43 40 36 34 31 29 27 26 24 23 22
NPC Lvl 2 200,000 30,000 30,000 30,000 65,000 355,000 71 65 60 55 51 48 45 42 40 38 36
NPC Lvl 3 900,000 75,000 75,000 75,000 75,000 1,200,000 240 219 200 185 172 160 150 142 134 127 120
NPC Lvl 4 1,600,000 120,000 120,000 120,000 300,000 2,260,000 452 411 377 348 323 302 283 266 252 238 226
NPC Lvl 5 3,000,000 180,000 180,000 180,000 450,000 3,990,000 798 726 665 614 570 532 499 470 444 420 399
NPC Lvl 6 4,000,000 200,000 200,000 200,000 600,000 5,200,000 1040 946 867 800 743 694 650 612 578 548 520
NPC Lvl 7 4,500,000 500,000 500,000 500,000 800,000 6,800,000 1360 1237 1134 1047 972 907 850 800 756 716 680
NPC Lvl 8 8,000,000 800,000 800,000 800,000 1,000,000 11,400,000 2280 2073 1900 1754 1629 1520 1425 1342 1267 1200 1140
NPC Lvl 9 14,000,000 550,000 550,000 550,000 1,200,000 16,850,000 3370 3064 2809 2593 2408 2247 2107 1983 1873 1774 1685
NPC Lvl 10 19,000,000 600,000 600,000 600,000 1,500,000 22,300,000 4460 4055 3717 3431 3186 2974 2788 2624 2478 2348 2230
Lower level NPCs
Level 1
Archery 6
- 20 Ballista HBR 5, MT 4, Hero ATT 74 ( 0 losses, 47 rounds )
- 20 Ballista HBR 5, MT 4, Hero ATT 65 ( 0 losses, 47 rounds )
- 35 Ballista HBR 2, MT 4, Hero ATT 60 ( 0 losses, 44 rounds )
- 71 Ballista HBR 7, MT 7, Hero ATT 125 ( 0 losses, 31 rounds )
Archery 7
- 10 Ballista HBR 5, MT 6, Hero ATT 70 ( 0 losses, 63 rounds )
- 15 Ballista HBR 6, MT 6, Hero ATT 34 ( 0 losses, 53 rounds )
- 20 Ballista HBR 8, MT 8, Hero ATT 66 ( 0 losses, 40 rounds )
- 23 Ballista HBR 2, MT 2, Hero ATT 71 ( 0 losses, 49 rounds )
Archery 8
- 20 Ballista HBR 5, MT 6, Hero ATT 64 ( 0 losses, 46 rounds )
- 13 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 24 ( 0 losses, 60 rounds )
- 18 Ballista HBR 7, MT 6, Hero ATT 93 ( 0 losses, 40 rounds )
- 10 Ballista HBR 7, MT 8, Hero ATT 69 ( 0 losses, 52 rounds )
- 20 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 57 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 19 Ballista HBR 8, MT 8, Hero ATT 57 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
Archery 9
- 20 Ballista HBR 5, MT 4, Hero ATT 42 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 32 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 38 ( 0 losses, 37 rounds )
- 08 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 69 ( 3 losses, 83 rounds )
Level 2
Archery 6
- 50 Ballista HBR 2, MT 5, Hero ATT 58 ( 0 losses, 54 rounds )
- 40 Ballista HBR 6, MT 4, Hero ATT 76 ( 0 losses, 52 rounds )
- 81 Ballista HBR 7, MT 7, Hero ATT 125 ( 0 losses, 37 rounds )
Archery 7
- 20 Ballista HBR 8, MT 8, Hero ATT 94 ( 0 losses, 66 rounds )
Archery 8
- 20 Ballista HBR 4, MT 8, Hero ATT 88 ( ? losses, 71 rounds )
- 20 Ballista HBR 7, MT 6, Hero ATT 93 ( 0 losses, 61 rounds )
- 50 Ballista HBR 8, MT 6, Hero ATT 38 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
Archery 9
- 80 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 37 ( 0 losses, 37 rounds )
- 45 Ballista BHR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 78 ( 0 losses, 42 rounds )
- 20 Ballista HBR 9, MT 9, Hero ATT 83 ( 0 losses, 65 rounds )
Level 3
Archery 6
- 108 Ballista HBR 7, MT ?, Hero ATT 95 ( 0 loss, 93 rounds)
- 109 Ballista HBR 7, MT ?, Hero ATT 78 ( 0 loss, 97 rounds)
- 127 Ballista HBR 6, MT ?, Hero ATT 93 ( 0 loss, 85 rounds)
- 200 Ballista HBR 4, MT ?, Hero ATT 46 ( 0 loss, ?? rounds)
Archery 7
- 300 Ballista HBR 2, MT 2, Hero ATT 70 ( 0 losses, 084 rounds )
- 125 Ballista HBR 5, MT 8, Hero ATT 69 ( 0 Losses, 90 rounds )
- 150 Ballista HBR 5, MT 7, Hero ATT 85 ( 0 Losses, 076 rounds )
- 116 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 80 ( 0 Losses, 92 rounds )
- 180 Ballista HBR 6, MT 6, Hero ATT 79 ( 0 Losses, 070 rounds )
- 100 Ballista HBR 7, MT 7, Hero ATT 74 ( 0 Losses, 100 rounds ) ( Failed )
- 130 Ballista HBR 7, MT 7, Hero ATT 74 ( 0 Losses, 084 rounds )
- 140 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 51 ( 0 Losses, 087 rounds )
- 100 Ballista HBR 8, MT 8, Hero ATT 94 ( 0 losses, 94 rounds )
- 193 Ballista HBR 6, MT 6, Hero att 58 ( 0 losses, 53 rounds )
Archery 8
- 100 Ballista HBR 5, MT ?, Hero ATT 84 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 120 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 83 ( 0 losses, 88 rounds )
- 100 Ballista HBR 7, MT 6, Hero ATT 57 ( 0 losses, 100 rounds ) Failed
- 099 Ballista HBR 7, MT 7, Hero ATT 94 ( 0 losses, 83 rounds )
- 159 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 76 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 155 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 82 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
Archery 9
- 140 Ballista HBR 6, MT 9, Hero ATT 59 ( 0 losses, 84 rounds )
- 115 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 37 ( 0 losses, 100 rounds ) ( Failed )
- 130 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 37 ( 0 losses, 90 rounds )
Level 4
Archery 6
- 250 Ballista HBR 5, MT 6, Hero ATT 75: total loss! do not try
- 472 Ballista HBR 7, NT 7, Hero ATT 125: total loss! Do not try
- 900 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 72, repeated with no loss.
Archery 7
- 250 Ballista HBR 2, MT 2, Hero ATT 058 ( 18 losses, 83 rounds )
- 270 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 124 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 290 Ballista HBR 5, MT 6, Hero ATT 084 ( 0 losses, 61 rounds )
- 300 Ballista HBR 2, MT 2, Hero ATT 073 ( 24 losses, 72 rounds )
- 350 Ballista HBR 2, MT 3, Hero ATT 077 ( 0 losses, 59 rounds )
Archery 8
- 333 Ballista HBR 3, MT 2, Hero ATT 076 ( 0 losses, 62 rounds )
- 250 Ballista HBR 5, MT 8, Hero ATT 065 ( 0 losses, ?? rounds )
- 200 Ballista HBR 6, MT 6, Hero ATT 071 ( 0 losses, 73 rounds )
- 150 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 080 ( 0 losses, 84 rounds )
- 180 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 078 ( 0 losses, 75 rounds )
- 146 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 097 ( 0 losses, 82 rounds )
- 200 Ballista HBR 6, MT 9, Hero ATT 024 ( 0 losses, 82 rounds )
- 200 Ballista HBR 7, MT 8, Hero ATT 102 ( 0 losses, 64 rounds )
- 235 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 076 ( 0 Losses, ?? rounds )
- 200 Ballista HBR 8, MT 7, Hero ATT 088 ( 0 losses, 69 rounds )
- 160 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 069 ( 0 losses, 81 rounds )
Archery 9
- 160 Ballista HBR 5, MT 8, Hero ATT 100 ( 0 losses, ?? Rounds )
- 125 Ballista HBR 6, MT 7, Hero ATT 109 ( 0 losses, ?? Rounds )
- 143 Ballista HBR 6, MT 8, Hero ATT 070 ( 0 losses, ?? Rounds )
- 160 Ballista HBR 6, MT 9, Hero ATT 039 ( 0 losses, 89 Rounds )
- 250 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 069 ( 0 losses, 59 Rounds )
- 180 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 076 ( 0 losses, 73 Rounds )
- 105 Ballista HBR 8, MT 9, Hero ATT 105 ( 0 losses, 95 Rounds )
- 235 Ballista HBR 9, MT 9, Hero Att 021 ( 0 losses, 72 Rounds )
- 170 Ballista HBR 9, MT 9, Hero ATT 083 ( 0 losses, 74 Rounds )
- 105 Ballista HBR 9, MT 9, Hero ATT 112 ( 0 losses, 93 Rounds )
Archery 10
- 180 Ballista HBR 7, MT 07, Hero ATT 085 ( 0 losses, 69 Rounds )
- 180 Ballista HBR 9, MT 09, Hero ATT 075 ( 0 losses, ?? Rounds )
- 180 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 040 ( 0 losses, 79 Rounds )
- 150 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 096 ( 0 Losses, 75 Rounds )
- 125 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 096 ( 0 Losses, 85 Rounds )
- 100 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 100 ( 0 losses, ?? Rounds )
- 90 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 099 ( 0 Losses, 100 Rounds ) <– Defeat, Battle Reached 100 Rounds.
- 95 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 099 ( 0 Losses, 99 Rounds ) <– Minimum Ballista Number for Hero ATT 99 = 95
Level 5
This is regarded as the best “bang for your buck” NPC city as it gives the most resources without loses. Please note that Level 5 NPCs are much more sensitive to your Archery to Horseback Riding ratio.
Archery 8
- 559 Ballista HBR 3, MT 2, Hero ATT 077 ( 72 rounds, 44 losses )
- 400 Ballista HBR 4, MT 7, Hero ATT 076 ( 84 rounds, 55 losses )
- 400 Ballista HBR 5, MT 5, Hero ATT 088 ( 71 rounds, no losses )
- 465 Ballista HBR 5, MT 9, Hero ATT 100 ( 62 rounds, no losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 6, MT 8, Hero ATT 108 ( 72 Rounds, no losses )
- 420 Ballista HBR 6, MT 9, Hero ATT 084 ( 67 rounds, no losses )
- 450 Ballista HBR 6, MT 9, Hero ATT 081 ( 65 rounds, no losses )
- 500 Ballista HBR 6, MT ?, Hero ATT 071 ( 64 rounds, no losses )
- 511 Ballista HBR 7, MT 8, Hero ATT 102 ( 61 rounds, 44 losses ) <– outside safe tech level ratio
- 550 Ballista HBR 8, MT 8, Hero ATT 085 ( ?? rounds, Total loss ) <- outside safe tech level ratio
Archery 9
- 350 Ballista HBR 8, MT 08, Hero ATT 079 ( 78 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 8, MT 08, Hero ATT 085 ( 76 Rounds, 5 losses )
- 325 Ballista HBR 8, MT 09, Hero ATT 105 ( 76 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 8, MT 09, Hero ATT 105 ( 79 Rounds, 10 Losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 117 ( 75 Rounds, 5 Losses )
- 325 Ballista HBR 9, MT 09, Hero ATT 111 ( 74 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 325 Ballista HBR 9, MT 09, Hero ATT 112 ( 72 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 9, MT 09, Hero ATT 087 ( 75 Rounds, 0 Losses )
Archery 10
- 350 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 044 ( 89 rounds, 20 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 088 ( 81 rounds, 2 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 092 ( 80 rounds, 0 losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 093 ( 75 rounds, 1 loss )
- 350 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 097 ( 75 rounds, 1 loss )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 098 ( 80 rounds, 4 losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 099 ( 74 rounds, 0 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 102 ( 78 rounds, 0 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 103 ( 80 rounds, 9 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 108 ( 78 rounds, 0 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 109 ( 78 rounds, 8 losses )
- 310 Ballista HBR 05, MT 10, Hero ATT 110 ( 78 rounds, 0 losses )
- 331 Ballista HBR 07, MT ??, Hero ATT 078 ( ?? Rounds, 18 losses)
- 331 Ballista HBR 07, MT ??, Hero ATT 115 ( ?? Rounds, 0 losses)
- 310 Ballista HBR 07, MT ??, Hero ATT 132 ( ?? Rounds, 11 losses)
- 400 Ballista HBR 09, MT 10, Hero ATT 074 ( 69 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 390 Ballista HBR 09, MT 10, Hero ATT 078 ( 69 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 375 Ballista HBR 09, MT 10, Hero ATT 090 ( 68 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 350 Ballista HBR 09, MT ??, Hero ATT 100 ( 70 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 325 Ballista HBR 09, MT 10, Hero ATT 110 ( 71 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 300 Ballista HBR 09, MT 10, Hero ATT 120 ( 74 Rounds, 0 Losses )
- 300 Ballista HBR 10, MT 10, Hero ATT 101 ( 78 Rounds, 8 Losses )
- 200 Catapults HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 137 ( 78 Rounds, 1 Loss )
- 220 Catapults HBR 9, MT 10, Hero ATT 138 ( 74 Rounds, 0 Losses )
Warning: going below 320 balista’s on an npc will still start giving small losses depending on the defending hero apperently. You will not get losses every single time but might get a few. 320 seems to be safe though, As soon as the amount of rounds needed breaks 75 rounds losses can start to appear.
lovell
5 Dec 09 at 1:45 am
updated…lvl 5 npc with 350 balls with heroes attack 100 and up
I have successfully conquered a lvl 10 npc….the guides out there were too vague so i made a plan of my own….i love my new city!!!!!
and i have received 3 mikeyscripts from lvl 5 npcs but no medals….average 200 npc attacks a day…not for resources either…after 1st mikey script im addicted lol….
jcn_on_81
5 Dec 09 at 2:31 am
321 ballista 432 trans for a lvl 5 with 100 attack heros
350 ballista for 70 and up
im lvl 10 techs but 350 worked with hbr 6 arch 8 when i ahd it
server 104
kaos
5 Jan 10 at 12:24 am
how did you conquered a lvl 10 NPC? what do you need to so as well can you please send me the info, I ‘ve been planing to conquer one my self. but have no Idea on where to star.
El Duke
12 Jan 10 at 7:01 pm
i use a hero with attack rangeing anywere from 20 to 120 on lvl 5 npcs i send 400 transporters and 400 ballistias and get 0 losses each time archery and HBR are both at lvl 10 though just thought to let it known you can whipe out lvl 5′s with 400 each of trans. & ballis.
bloodforce
17 Jan 10 at 1:41 am
you dont attack a lvl 6 with balls… thats all there is too it… and you will almost always have loss
dabossma
6 Feb 10 at 8:50 am
I always take archery to 10 first, before attacking higher than level 4 npc’s. I regularyly farm them and have used the following with no losses:
And hero doesn’t matter at this point, I have even leveled up politics and intel hero’s with npc attacks 
Hope this one helps…
Lvl1 20 bal 70 transport;
Lvl2 33 bal 100 transport;
Lvl3 130 bal 200 transport;
Lvl4 210 bal 300 transport;
Lvl5 380 bal 400 transport.
Of course, logistics makes a dif on number of transports required. Above level 5 you will ALWAYS have losses cause they now have trebs. Also, sacrificing about 500 warriors per level will increase hero xp
JSKilzm
21 Feb 10 at 10:39 am
Geez Guys I lost 94k archers, 2k ballis, 2k trans, 1k pike and 1k sword on a lvl0 NPC (Hero Attack 134)
Any Help would be appreciated on what I did wrong
RedSun
26 Feb 10 at 8:38 pm
I have sent out 10k warriors and 5k archers to take out defenses…all out. am now sending 611 balli and 750 trans
Shadoweye
5 Mar 10 at 7:46 am
I have lvl 10 arch, and hbr. I clean out lvl 5′s with 400 balli, 400 trans. No losses
steve
10 Mar 10 at 6:53 pm
I routinely hit lvl 5 NPCs with 425 balistas and 425 transporters with no losses. Keep in mind I have lvl 10 technology for everything though.
If your technology is in the 8 range, you should be able to get away with 500 balistas and 450 transporters.
Happy farming!
Sean
11 Mar 10 at 2:39 am
Just attacked a lvl 8 npc with 65k arch 28k war 2k pike sword 1k scout 500 cav and 500 trans all lvl 10 ecxept hbr lost all rainbow 3k war and 3k arch with hero attack of 124 not to bad i like those numbers
Waulter54
1 Apr 10 at 5:35 am
and waulter u would less if u hadworkers in the equation . what i farm a lvl 10 with is 93k arhcers 2k scouts 1k workers 1k warriors 500 pike and 500 pike with 2k trans and lose all rainbow execpt 1k scouts and average between 4k-5k archers losses with a 300att hero same results with my 240 att hero with 500 more archers losses
LordJesus
30 Apr 10 at 10:52 am
can i send archers to a lvl3 npc?
zach
24 May 10 at 3:28 pm
i attaked a lv 5 npc with 150 catapults and won
90 attk hero 10 arhcery 10 hb rideing
Zachary
26 May 10 at 7:34 pm
Simple….I use 400 Transports, 390 Bals LVL10 Archery, LVl 10HBR, Lvl 10 MT above 75 attack hero, never taken any losses on NPC5s
Tom
26 May 10 at 9:30 pm
Hey guys,
with research levels maxed you cn take lvl5 npc with 360 ball 400 trans with a good attack hero. For level 10 farming i use the following (research levels maxed)
2500 workers, 2500 warriors, 4k scouts, 500 ea pike and sword, 88k archers and 2k transports. Scout the npc to get a low level hero, and your hero attack must be 140 or better. Good luck!
Kilz
4 Jun 10 at 1:54 am
You can completely clean out a level 5 npc using 500 ballistas and 500 transporters. I use this on 5 servers. Always works (well every couple of weeks one particular server gives me a nasty surprise but one loss out of every 300 attacks is good.
Sir Blay
5 Jun 10 at 2:52 am
Okay I have a formula that works on level 10′s without fail once your research is maxed. Generally i lose about 4k archers and the other guys, minus what heals. Also scout the npc for a low level hero, it changes with ea scout. 2500 work/warr; 500 pike/sword; 4k scout, 88k arch, and 2k trans. Hero MUST be above 140 attack or you will have larger losses.
Good Luck
JSKilzm
6 Jun 10 at 5:52 pm
Question:
I attacked a level 3 npc using 115 ballista, 140 transport. Took out everything except traps and abatii. Battle still took 100 rounds and resulted in defeat.
Archery 7
HBR 5
Is my HBR simply too low? I’m confused as to what was left for me to kill in order to succeed in the assault.
Joe
11 Jun 10 at 5:20 pm
hey i have all lv 10 resurch and i can hit lv 5s with 300 balista and 400 trans i pick up all rec and i dont lose any i hit lv 10s with 88k arecher 2k trans 2k pike 2k sword 2k scout 2k warrior take all rec and loose around 1k-2k of each troops and around 4k-6k archer
i am on server 126
TheRaven
16 Jun 10 at 10:36 am
sorry my last post a hit on lv 10 i put that you need 2k warrior but i use 4k not 2k my mistake sorry
TheRaven
16 Jun 10 at 10:39 am
again im sorry u have to bare in mind all my hero are above 150 attck
TheRaven
16 Jun 10 at 10:40 am
You do realise it doenst take that many ballista to farm a level 6. Even though theyre using the DT. Send in warriors, theyll take all the casualties from DT then have a wave of ballista land right after and there wont be any DT to attack your ballista, the attack will go on normally with no losses. shouldnt take that much but im looking at all the troop counts.
Hope it helps!
Cameronzz
Cameornzz
17 Jun 10 at 8:46 pm
How do I take over a lvl 7 npc thats right next to me with only archers? Im farely new and dont want to take upgrade time, so plz help me out on this one. And if u play on NA1, and u message me ur cords, ull eventually get a huge reward. Jarrock is my name on NA1.
Jarrock
24 Jun 10 at 7:05 pm
Ah, just send 200K ballista at anything and it should work.
Anon
28 Jun 10 at 5:34 am
just attacked a lvl 4 with 300 ballista lvl 9 archery lvl 5hbr lvl 7 mil tradit and lvl 8 iron working. hero with 74 attack no losses battlena13.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20100707/e8/b4/e8b4be5307767d02ebaf639a74160122.xml
na13 Darkrise
7 Jul 10 at 11:00 pm
okayy so i just attacked a lvl 6 NPC with 1k balistea and 700 transporters with a hero of 134 att. and 33 intel. and had no loses. i have lvl 10 MT lvl 9 Iron Working Archery and Horseback Riding. and only lvl 2 Medicine.
Taylor83
5 Sep 10 at 7:07 am
So at this point of time is it safe to assume that i should not attempt to plunder a level 6 npc considering i have 1100 Ballistas, Level 9 of archery, horse riding and Military tradition.Does anyone know the perfect combo with ballistas and research levels?
Saurabh
5 Oct 10 at 6:53 pm
Had a bad experience – sent 3000 balilistas against a Lvl 6, lost ‘em all!
Have been sending 2000 against the local Lvl 5, 600 on the 4′s – and the pickings can be slim, with the whole neighborhood using the same shopping centers
Floydsie
22 Nov 10 at 5:09 pm
i can attack a level 3 with 250 bassiaes
Unown
5 Dec 10 at 12:47 am
Hi everyone! Here’s something I know about age 2 and hope it will help. If you capture a flat that is lvl 5 and build a city on it, then leave the city, you will have made a lvl 5 NPC. When the server is updated (Every night) Your lvl 5NPC will disappear. The resources you will get for making the NPC will greatly outweigh the resources you’ll lose for making the city. Thanks for reading!,
Lady Jennifer server “Espada”
slushy
14 May 11 at 5:54 pm
hey,
i noticed that some ppl here use overkill.. which isnt always nesesary.
lvl 1 NPC: 10 ballistas, 20 trans
lvl 2 NPC: 20 ball, 40 trans
lvl 3 NPC: 40 ball, 80 trans,
lvl 4 NPC: 80 ball, 160 trans,
lvl 5 NPC: 160 ball, 320 trans.
with this tactic you will have no losses, but your hero attack should be 70+
Leopard
4 Jul 11 at 11:50 am
i attack level 5′s around me and i had a hero with only 58 attack and he was lvl 1 and i attack the lvl 5′s with 389 ballista archery 10 and borseback riding is 9 no losses except when i bring warriors to get them killed to get more exp
Kenneth
31 Aug 11 at 5:39 pm
here is a tip for you guys if you have a attack hero of 730 or over when you send ballista’s to a level 10 NPC you get ZERO losses this will only work if you send 30,000 ballistas or over.You get massive experience and you can level up your hero super fast i got my hero to level 100 in just 1 day buy using this secret.
skykiller
25 Nov 11 at 6:26 pm